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Old March 28th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #101
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When Obama said if he had a son he would look like Tray do you think he let a slip go that Tray was really his illegitimate son?

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Old March 28th, 2012, 10:29 PM   #102
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More bad press for Z:

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Old March 28th, 2012, 11:27 PM   #103
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Im still trying to figure out why anyone cares... on the flipide, it has gotten me all excited for Vince Vaughns new movie "Neighborhood Watch"

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Old March 28th, 2012, 11:48 PM   #104
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Im still trying to figure out why anyone cares... on the flipide, it has gotten me all excited for Vince Vaughns new movie "Neighborhood Watch"
I'm still trying to figure out why people who claim they don't care feel the need to come to this thread and tell us they don't care.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #105
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I had heard that Z was in a gated community and should not have been there. He was cutting through the gated community to get where he was going. He was 250 miles from his home. He was with his dad someplace different than home.
according to this: http://www.tampabay.com/news/humanin...kes-in/1221799 both Z and M had the right to be in the gated community. Z lived there, M was visiting someone with his Dad.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 06:48 AM   #106
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Old March 29th, 2012, 07:44 AM   #107
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Interview with Z's father sheads new light.

http://www.redlasso.com/featured/exc...ermans-father/
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Old March 29th, 2012, 10:13 AM   #108
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Interview with Z's father sheads new light.

http://www.redlasso.com/featured/exc...ermans-father/
Sheds more light on the guy who still gets to tell his side of the story. He has had a few days to work on his side, so it might be a brilliant story.

I have seen the photos of the 17 year old (including the one in the motivation poster which is not him but was taken from a neo-nazi website). I have heard that he did some stupid stuff here and there but he is a teenager. I think to myself this guy is justified killing him because he has smoked some weed? I don't know. I think about the stupid shit I did as a teenager, and wonder if that would have been used against me if someone had killed me. This story is getting muddier and muddier by the day.
Did Z have the right to harass the M, yes. Was he reckless in doing so? yes. Is a kid now dead because Z thought he might be someone he clearly wasn't? yes.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 10:25 AM   #109
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Sheds more light on the guy who still gets to tell his side of the story. He has had a few days to work on his side, so it might be a brilliant story.

I have seen the photos of the 17 year old (including the one in the motivation poster which is not him but was taken from a neo-nazi website). I have heard that he did some stupid stuff here and there but he is a teenager. I think to myself this guy is justified killing him because he has smoked some weed? I don't know. I think about the stupid shit I did as a teenager, and wonder if that would have been used against me if someone had killed me. This story is getting muddier and muddier by the day.
Did Z have the right to harass the M, yes. Was he reckless in doing so? yes. Is a kid now dead because Z thought he might be someone he clearly wasn't? yes.
I don't care what happened beforehand, if Z followed him or not. When Martin decided to attack him, he took it too far and its his own fault he's dead. He made the choice to make a confrontation physical.

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I don't care what happened beforehand, if Z followed him or not. When Martin decided to attack him, he took it too far and its his own fault he's dead. He made the choice to make a confrontation physical.

Again, allegedly.
I agree, whoever escalated the situation to a physical confrontation is the one who is at fault.
It could come down to “dead men tell no tales”. If M had managed to get the gun away from Z, M would be telling his tale.
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Sheds more light on the guy who still gets to tell his side of the story. He has had a few days to work on his side, so it might be a brilliant story.

I have seen the photos of the 17 year old (including the one in the motivation poster which is not him but was taken from a neo-nazi website). I have heard that he did some stupid stuff here and there but he is a teenager. I think to myself this guy is justified killing him because he has smoked some weed? I don't know. I think about the stupid shit I did as a teenager, and wonder if that would have been used against me if someone had killed me. This story is getting muddier and muddier by the day.
Did Z have the right to harass the M, yes. Was he reckless in doing so? yes. Is a kid now dead because Z thought he might be someone he clearly wasn't? yes.
You don't know that. Tray could very well have been the person breaking into houses or whatever.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #112
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You don't know that. Tray could very well have been the person breaking into houses or whatever.
Probably not considering he didn't live there full time. Was he doing anything worse than what you did at 17? I have heard stories and I think not.
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Probably not considering he didn't live there full time. Was he doing anything worse than what you did at 17? I have heard stories and I think not.
Didn't they say the breakins were recent?

IF he was breaking in, then yes he was doing things worse than I was when I was 17.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 11:37 AM   #114
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Probably not considering he didn't live there full time. Was he doing anything worse than what you did at 17? I have heard stories and I think not.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #115
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I have seen the photos of the 17 year old (including the one in the motivation poster which is not him but was taken from a neo-nazi website).
That picture is directly from his own facebook page Just a fyi.

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I'm still trying to figure out why people who claim they don't care feel the need to come to this thread and tell us they don't care.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 02:39 PM   #117
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Sheds more light on the guy who still gets to tell his side of the story. He has had a few days to work on his side, so it might be a brilliant story.

I have seen the photos of the 17 year old (including the one in the motivation poster which is not him but was taken from a neo-nazi website). I have heard that he did some stupid stuff here and there but he is a teenager. I think to myself this guy is justified killing him because he has smoked some weed? I don't know. I think about the stupid shit I did as a teenager, and wonder if that would have been used against me if someone had killed me. This story is getting muddier and muddier by the day.
Did Z have the right to harass the M, yes. Was he reckless in doing so? yes. Is a kid now dead because Z thought he might be someone he clearly wasn't? yes.
This is a tragedy, no doubt. Somebody was killed, a black boy by a white guy and this is big news according to the media. But you hear nothing about the 2 black boys that lite a 13 year old white boy on fire with gasoline.
This is an attempt to racially divide this country by the media, liberals and our president who also said that this kid could have been his own son.
This will get worse across this country. And just when you would think that racisim is getting behind us. It is sad to think we are getting more and more racially divided all in the name of politics and votes.
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This is a tragedy, no doubt. Somebody was killed, a black boy by a white guy and this is big news according to the media. But you hear nothing about the 2 black boys that lite a 13 year old white boy on fire with gasoline.
This is an attempt to racially divide this country by the media, liberals and our president who also said that this kid could have been his own son.
This will get worse across this country. And just when you would think that racisim is getting behind us. It is sad to think we are getting more and more racially divided all in the name of politics and votes.
Need to reread who did the shooting.

But then, so does Not so sharpton and crew. It's an election year, lots of politicians are going to jump on the racial bandwagon.

Hell, the kids parents are already looking at ways to turn this into a profit for them.
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