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Old March 27th, 2012, 03:02 PM   #61
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True. But it's not advised to confront a potential criminal. If Z thought this guy is really a thief, it would be logical that he was armed. What person in their right mind would approach a potential thief on a public street? IMO, only one who was looking for a fight.

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When I went to the neighborhood watch meeting, we were told to observe and get as accurate description of the suspect and any vehicle they may be in. We were specifically instructed not to interact in any way.

This is what prompted the two I mentioned before to talk about what they would do to such a person.

I wanted nothing to do with a group whose underlying motive was vigilantism.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 04:11 PM   #63
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look at this bullshit...the media and the hate mongers, shitton I mean sharpton and jackson would love you to believe the kid was not a trouble maker. Now the family is trying to profit from a tragedy should speak volumes about his upbringing. I cannot wait for this to go away, because the more it plays out the more it isn't good for anyone


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Tayvon Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton is seeking to trademark phrases with her son's name.

According to applications filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office by the family's attorney last week, Fulton wants to trademark "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon" for use in DVDs and CDs memorializing the slain teenager.

[Related: Shooting puts Wisconsin's 'castle' law under scrutiny]

In the wake of the news that her son had been suspended from school after traces of marijuana were found in his book bag, Fulton said Monday that those leaking information were trying to blame the victim. "They killed my son, and now they are trying to kill his reputation," Fulton said.

Fulton's trademark application could be fuel for critics who contend Martin's parents—and civil rights activists like Rev. Al Sharpton—are trying to capitalize on the killing for personal or financial gain.

But Martin—who was unarmed when he was shot by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, in Sanford, Fla., last month—and the hooded sweatshirt he was wearing at the time he was killed, have become symbols of the country's racial divide and the pursuit of justice. Martin's family may simply be trying to gain some control over his name, which has been cropping up on t-shirts and hoodies across the country.

[Photos: Thousands march for Trayvon Martin]

Zimmerman's image, meanwhile, appears on a t-shirt that is causing even more furor in Florida. Zimmerman's face appears on the shirt under the phrase "P*** A** CRACKER." A photo of a Florida rapper—Plies—wearing the shirt was posted on Twitter, sparking outrage among Zimmerman's supporters.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 04:30 PM   #64
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Old March 27th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #65
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Old March 27th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #66
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I am all for CCL but I wish there was a way to dis-qualify stupid fucks from getting them.

I work with a guy who is a big fawking pussy, has the maturity level of a 12 year old and has a CCL just to be cool. He is EXACTLY the type to escalate a situation just so he has a reason to pull his gun out....

funny thing is that he shakes while firing a gun ( or doing anything scary) and anyone with a set of balls could easily smack him in the mouth (or hand) and take his gun and then commence to pistol whipping him.

It's guys like this that give the rest of us headaches with the anti gun crowd.

Seems like that for every 100 responsible, mature and level headed gun owners there are about 5 that should be allowed to carry flint locks only.

end rant..

My opinion:
The moment that Zimmerman followed Trayvon he gave up his right to "stand your ground."

The local PD fawked up a bunch.

Zimmerman is very much like my co-worker. A stupid fawk that looks for any chance to be a hero with a cape and gun....with the hope that doing so will fix his personal mental mommy issues.

Trayvon may have been a punk, a hoodlum or whatever, may have even beat Zimmerman ass and reached for his gun during fight....but him being dead is all Zimmerman.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #67
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I am all for CCL but I wish there was a way to dis-qualify stupid fucks from getting them.

I work with a guy who is a big fawking pussy, has the maturity level of a 12 year old and has a CCL just to be cool. He is EXACTLY the type to escalate a situation just so he has a reason to pull his gun out....

funny thing is that he shakes while firing a gun ( or doing anything scary) and anyone with a set of balls could easily smack him in the mouth (or hand) and take his gun and then commence to pistol whipping him.

It's guys like this that give the rest of us headaches with the anti gun crowd.

Seems like that for every 100 responsible, mature and level headed gun owners there are about 5 that should be allowed to carry flint locks only.

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My opinion:
The moment that Zimmerman followed Trayvon he gave up his right to "stand your ground."

The local PD fawked up a bunch.

Zimmerman is very much like my co-worker. A stupid fawk that looks for any chance to be a hero with a cape and gun....with the hope that doing so will fix his personal mental mommy issues.

Trayvon may have been a punk, a hoodlum or whatever, may have even beat Zimmerman ass and reached for his gun during fight....but him being dead is all Zimmerman.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 08:21 PM   #68
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http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_43.html

Of all juveniles (individuals under the age of 18) arrested in 2009 in the Nation, 65.9 percent were white, 31.3 percent were black, and 2.8 percent were of other races.

Black juveniles accounted for 51.6 percent of juvenile arrests for violent crimes.
Please note, the black community makes up 12.9% of the population.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #69
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My opinion:
The moment that Zimmerman followed Trayvon he gave up his right to "stand your ground."

The local PD fawked up a bunch.



Trayvon may have been a punk, a hoodlum or whatever, may have even beat Zimmerman ass and reached for his gun during fight....but him being dead is all Zimmerman.
your opinion on the law doesn't matter...I have several opinions about laws, but they are just that..opinions and at the end of the day laws are there and how I feel about them doesn't change them.

How exactly did the local PD fukc up? They have done nothing wrong.

Regardless of how they got into the situation you cannot place blame on the victim of this case...and the victim has yet to be determined. You are making assumptions based on information you have gathered from the media, the same media who does not care about reporting facts, they like ratings. Why do you think when they show a picture of the dead boy it is picture from when he was 14 and when they show a picture of the shooter they show him in what appears to be a mug shot. All a cleaver and gentle way to persuade public opinion, which in your case its seems you have made up your mind. congrats this ones for you
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your opinion on the law doesn't matter...I have several opinions about laws, but they are just that..opinions and at the end of the day laws are there and how I feel about them doesn't change them.

How exactly did the local PD fukc up? They have done nothing wrong.

Regardless of how they got into the situation you cannot place blame on the victim of this case...and the victim has yet to be determined. You are making assumptions based on information you have gathered from the media, the same media who does not care about reporting facts, they like ratings. Why do you think when they show a picture of the dead boy it is picture from when he was 14 and when they show a picture of the shooter they show him in what appears to be a mug shot. All a cleaver and gentle way to persuade public opinion, which in your case its seems you have made up your mind. congrats this ones for you
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Old March 27th, 2012, 09:27 PM   #71
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your opinion on the law doesn't matter...I have several opinions about laws, but they are just that..opinions and at the end of the day laws are there and how I feel about them doesn't change them.

How exactly did the local PD fukc up? They have done nothing wrong.

Regardless of how they got into the situation you cannot place blame on the victim of this case...and the victim has yet to be determined. You are making assumptions based on information you have gathered from the media, the same media who does not care about reporting facts, they like ratings. Why do you think when they show a picture of the dead boy it is picture from when he was 14 and when they show a picture of the shooter they show him in what appears to be a mug shot. All a cleaver and gentle way to persuade public opinion, which in your case its seems you have made up your mind. congrats this ones for you
I heard claims that the local PD made some mistakes in the collecting of evidence and other aspects of the investigation, but then again that came from the media also so how knows what the truth is, and anyways that was all after the fact. There's not much the local PD could have done differently to prevent this.

Mostly I agree with you one this one.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #72
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I heard claims that the local PD made some mistakes in the collecting of evidence and other aspects of the investigation, but then again that came from the media also so how knows what the truth is, and anyways that was all after the fact. There's not much the local PD could have done differently to prevent this.

Mostly I agree with you one this one.
The media loves to spin things...here is a local example for you. Two years ago the was a local LEO accused of rape. The was let go from his job. The Oakland Press and other papers plastered his face in the front page several times. They painted a picture that he was a horrible person and was guilty as guilty could be. They took advantage of his situation to bash local law enforcement. Even as he went threw the court process the media hung him out to dry. And by the time it was all said and done, he was proven innocent on all accounts. His accuser had conspired this plan with someone who had made a similar claim three years before this latest one. She too was proven to be a lair and the accusations were dismissed, but not without tarnished a good mans name. How many stories do you think the papers or news ran after he was found innocent? NONE!!! I don't believe shit that comes from the news...they are not in it for the truth, only ratings
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1. I did not read any posts in this thread, except for Nuggets post about blaming China.

2. Following someone does not give the person being followed the right to attack you.

3. Pounding someones head into the sidewalk IS DEADLY FORCE. In Florida, deadly force, can be met with deadly force, and be justified under the law, as it should be.

4. All the race baiting is going to lead to nothing good. We will be hearing about this case for a long, long time.

5. The New Black Panther Party has put out a bounty on Zimmerman. Why has no Law Enforcement Organization done anything about this? If they take him, they would be kidnapping.

6. http://patdollard.com/2012/03/was-tr...ng-gangbanger/


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Does anybody know what the 'rules' are for neighborhood watch are in Florida?


Like I stated before, when I was considering joining a watch group, we were told we were not to approach or engage suspicious persons, only to get as good a description as possible.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 07:37 AM   #76
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This kid had no reason to start a fight because a neighborhood watchman was following him. If he wasn't a piece of trash, he would have just asked him to quit following him, "I'm just visiting my family down the road." Might have settled some nerves. Not punch him, knock him to the ground and bang his head on the cement or whatever happened.

All I have to say, I feel sorry for Zimmerman. He'll be made into a martyr for racism and he's not even white.
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I don't believe shit that comes from the news...they are not in it for the truth, only ratings
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Meh, whatever the outcome, I just hope they have good news coverage of the riots afterwards.
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Does anybody know what the 'rules' are for neighborhood watch are in Florida?


Like I stated before, when I was considering joining a watch group, we were told we were not to approach or engage suspicious persons, only to get as good a description as possible.
What they tell you isn't the law. They only told you that at your meeting so there would be a lesser chance of them being held liable if you did decide to do something further.
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Meh, whatever the outcome, I just hope they have good news coverage of the riots afterwards.
It will be nation wide, so we will just have to look down the street.
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