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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #1
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Trayvon Martin

I find it funny how the last few weeks the media has demonized Zimmerman, and make it sound like he killed him in cold blood. Now it is coming out that witnesses seen Martin on zimmerman beating his head in, and the fact that Zimmerman was bloodied and bruised when the police arrived. But up until today none of that was told, and I still haven't seen it on mainstream new yet. what are your thought. I think Zimmerman should be prosecuted if he killed him without being attacked, I also think that he will not get a fair trial, or ever live a good life after due to media wanting to make it look like the bad white man killed the innocent black kid, and only reporting half the facts.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:11 PM   #2
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As of right now, w/o knowing all the facts (the way the media likes it).
Zimmerman is a dirty dick weed that should burn in hell for what he has done!

But, I'm gonna wait till the rest of the facts leak out to form an opinion.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:20 PM   #3
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Just remember, if Obama had a son, he would look like Trayvon. Because Obama needs all the votes he can get in November.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #4
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I heard on the news today Ray Lewis of all people is outraged at this...Fucking Ray Lewis killed someone and got away with it!!!
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #5
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Search his name on google, and you will find newer pics of him where he is tatted up, gold teeth, thug looking, the pic of a sweet clean cut black kid is an old pic the media is using to portray him as a nice kid. I know that looks don't mean he was a thug, but just annoyed at the media leaving this part out. Also if you want to see true racism, but again not reported by main stream media
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...r-7584949.html
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:33 PM   #6
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The bounty thing is being covered by he media. Even CNN and NPR.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #7
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The bounty thing is being covered by he media. Even CNN and NPR.
Hmmm, guess I missed them.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #8
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Old March 26th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #9
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The media is playing into Obama's hand in an attempt to divide the nation by race and greed, the have's and the have not's.
This how he is going to try and win the election by deceiving a nation. Lets hope most people remember what he has not done in the last 3.5 years.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 10:19 PM   #10
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Clear this up for me. How is obama getting votes from this again?
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Old March 26th, 2012, 11:04 PM   #11
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Clear this up for me. How is obama getting votes from this again?
by making blacks thing everyone in the U.S. is a racist black hater.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #12
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This case has been blown way out of proportion. Every news source has twisted the details in whatever way they feel necessary, while none of them are the same. A hispanic male, who lives in a neighborhood with recent break-ins see's a suspecious black male and calls the cops. What happens after that, i have no idea, other than the black kid ending up dieing. If its going to be called racist when a white dislikes a black, it should be called racist when a black dislikes a white.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 11:28 PM   #13
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This case has been blown way out of proportion. Every news source has twisted the details in whatever way they feel necessary, while none of them are the same. A hispanic male, who lives in a neighborhood with recent break-ins see's a suspecious black male and calls the cops. What happens after that, i have no idea, other than the black kid ending up dieing. If its going to be called racist when a white dislikes a black, it should be called racist when a black dislikes a white.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #14
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by making blacks thing everyone in the U.S. is a racist black hater.
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So more blacks will vote for him because he's black, Aaaaaaaayyyyyy get it...
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Old March 27th, 2012, 05:08 AM   #15
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This much we can gather from the recorded phone call;
Neighborhood watchman sees a suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman calls cops and tells them he is following suspicious character.
Cops tell neighborhood watchman to NOT follow suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman follows suspicious character against police orders.

This much we suspect;
Neighborhood watchman approaches suspicious character against police orders.
Argument ensues and escalates.
Fight starts.

This much we know;
Neighborhood watchman kills suspicious character.

My opinion? Neighborhood watchman is fucked. His job as a watchman was to keep an eye out and call the police if something aroused his suspicion. NOT to take matters into his own hands. I recognize and support that he has no duty to retreat. However, he had no authority to approach someone on the street for any reason. If it were on his property, yes. But if the kid was truly on the street or sidewalk, what the kid was doing was none of the watchman's business. For that matter, even if the kid chose to walk behind someone else's house, the watchman had no duty to follow him. He had already done his job as a neighborhood watchman by notifying the police.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 06:36 AM   #16
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This much we can gather from the recorded phone call;
Neighborhood watchman sees a suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman calls cops and tells them he is following suspicious character.
Cops tell neighborhood watchman to NOT follow suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman follows suspicious character against police orders.

This much we suspect;
Neighborhood watchman approaches suspicious character against police orders.
Argument ensues and escalates.
Fight starts.

This much we know;
Neighborhood watchman kills suspicious character.

My opinion? Neighborhood watchman is fucked. His job as a watchman was to keep an eye out and call the police if something aroused his suspicion. NOT to take matters into his own hands. I recognize and support that he has no duty to retreat. However, he had no authority to approach someone on the street for any reason. If it were on his property, yes. But if the kid was truly on the street or sidewalk, what the kid was doing was none of the watchman's business. For that matter, even if the kid chose to walk behind someone else's house, the watchman had no duty to follow him. He had already done his job as a neighborhood watchman by notifying the police.
Once again Jim uses facts and logic as opposed to the back woods racism that 98.6745% of this site uses.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 06:40 AM   #17
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Once again Jim uses facts and logic as opposed to the back woods racism that 98.6745% of this site uses.
Cant argue with facts.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 06:48 AM   #18
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This much we can gather from the recorded phone call;
Neighborhood watchman sees a suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman calls cops and tells them he is following suspicious character.
Cops tell neighborhood watchman to NOT follow suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman follows suspicious character against police orders.

This much we suspect;
Neighborhood watchman approaches suspicious character against police orders.
Argument ensues and escalates.
Fight starts.

This much we know;
Neighborhood watchman kills suspicious character.

My opinion? Neighborhood watchman is fucked. His job as a watchman was to keep an eye out and call the police if something aroused his suspicion. NOT to take matters into his own hands. I recognize and support that he has no duty to retreat. However, he had no authority to approach someone on the street for any reason. If it were on his property, yes. But if the kid was truly on the street or sidewalk, what the kid was doing was none of the watchman's business. For that matter, even if the kid chose to walk behind someone else's house, the watchman had no duty to follow him. He had already done his job as a neighborhood watchman by notifying the police.
I see a huge flaw with your analysis. Never did you mention the colors of the involved people. According to our media that is the single most important factor here(heavy sarcasm).
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Old March 27th, 2012, 06:51 AM   #19
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This much we can gather from the recorded phone call;
Neighborhood watchman sees a suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman calls cops and tells them he is following suspicious character.
Cops tell neighborhood watchman to NOT follow suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman follows suspicious character against police orders.

This much we suspect;
Neighborhood watchman approaches suspicious character against police orders.
Argument ensues and escalates.
Fight starts.

This much we know;
Neighborhood watchman kills suspicious character.

My opinion? Neighborhood watchman is fucked. His job as a watchman was to keep an eye out and call the police if something aroused his suspicion. NOT to take matters into his own hands. I recognize and support that he has no duty to retreat. However, he had no authority to approach someone on the street for any reason. If it were on his property, yes. But if the kid was truly on the street or sidewalk, what the kid was doing was none of the watchman's business. For that matter, even if the kid chose to walk behind someone else's house, the watchman had no duty to follow him. He had already done his job as a neighborhood watchman by notifying the police.
That's how I see it so far...
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Old March 27th, 2012, 06:55 AM   #20
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This much we can gather from the recorded phone call;
Neighborhood watchman sees a suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman calls cops and tells them he is following suspicious character.
Cops tell neighborhood watchman to NOT follow suspicious character.
Neighborhood watchman follows suspicious character against police orders.

This much we suspect;
Neighborhood watchman approaches suspicious character against police orders.
Argument ensues and escalates.
Fight starts.

This much we know;
Neighborhood watchman kills suspicious character.

My opinion? Neighborhood watchman is fucked. His job as a watchman was to keep an eye out and call the police if something aroused his suspicion. NOT to take matters into his own hands. I recognize and support that he has no duty to retreat. However, he had no authority to approach someone on the street for any reason. If it were on his property, yes. But if the kid was truly on the street or sidewalk, what the kid was doing was none of the watchman's business. For that matter, even if the kid chose to walk behind someone else's house, the watchman had no duty to follow him. He had already done his job as a neighborhood watchman by notifying the police.
He called 911, not the cops. The 911 operator directed him not to follow, which he is not legally obligated to do.

I heard that while on the phone he had lost sight of Trayvon. Something happened in between that time, and then Zimmerman was getting back to his truck when he was attacked by Trayvon. Trayvon was apparently on top of Zimmerman when he shot and killed Trayvon. From this point of view it wasn't Zimmerman who did the confronting.

So Zimmerman was probably trying to ward off crime in his mind. Whether it was right or not to follow someone, who knows. Should Zimmerman have been attacked violently for that though?

If that is what happened, then in my mind it is justified.

Granted, the facts are so twisted who knows what happened.
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