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Old March 6th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #41
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I have a feeling we are going to have to suffer through another 4 of Obama and then get a chance at redemption when the dems get to put their retards on display as well...
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Old March 6th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #42
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I'm a fiscal conservative, small government kind of guy. More and more as this process grinds on, I am feeling dislike for Romney, and Newt. I think Santorum has potential, however he needs to mature for a few more years, and shut his mouth.

We need to stop spending money. Period. Programs need to be cut, and people need to deal with it. Obama is not doing that, he is spending more every day. I dont know if the Republicans will cut, but we know Obama wont, so I guess we can try one of them next.

I'm an anybody-but-obama guy, however I will not be happy if I have to vote for Mitt, which after today, I think Mitt may be the nominee.
You would vote for a guy you want to "shut his mouth"? If he is speaking his views why shut his mouth?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 11:30 AM   #43
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So what is your option if you don't like choice A or choice B? Just pick the lesser of the ass douches?
Try do weigh who will do the best for *me* vs. how much they would muck it up for the country vs. how much is total bullshit lies.

Quite clear ay?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #44
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To put it simply, I don't trust the man, I don't like the man, I don't want to see the man, and I don't want to hear the man, so I have zero intent on voting for him. He makes my skin crawl. I don't believe in his character, morals, values, attitude, etc.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 11:38 AM   #45
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So what is your option if you don't like choice A or choice B? Just pick the lesser of the ass douches?
Vote The Libertarian Party - The Party of Principle, Minimum Goverment, Maximum Freedom

You can vote for the lesser of A-holes, but I feel better when they both suck and one of the A-holes win I DID NOT VOTE FOR THAT PERSON or party.
I think that's better than someone that decides not to vote at all because they don't like the or party candidates.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 11:51 AM   #46
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"It really boils down to me not liking the things obama has pushed and supported, and not feeling like he has pushed anything thru that I felt is what I wanted to see happen.

To put it simply, I don't trust the man, I don't like the man, I don't want to see the man, and I don't want to hear the man, so I have zero intent on voting for him. He makes my skin crawl. I don't believe in his character, morals, values, attitude, etc."

I like this. And I agree

Here is my un-educated 2 cents.....

I think that the only positive things that have come out of D.C. in his term are not because of him, and for that matter, not because of the collective efforts of a certain group/groups of politicians. If there is anything that people have had a positive reference about, it has been most likely an favorable outcome from circumstances that were out of those same group/groups control, and just ended up being positive. But of course, both the left and the right have jumped on that like a bum on a biscuit, trying to lay claim to the overall positive outcome. This is just my un-educated and most likely ill-informed outlook on this.

Now, it must be said that I am not for hand-outs that are supporting those that choose not to suck it up and bust their ass for what they get. I am, however, for helping those same individuals learn how to fend for themselves and make it work so they can become independent. The unfortunate thing that has been swept under the rug is that the programs that have been instituted to "help and assist", have been implemented in a way that they are not temporary and have become of a permanent nature. These same programs have been pushed more so by the left, and because of it have gained an ever-growing following of people that have been conditioned to accept mediocrity and celebrate complacency. Because of the growth in this concept, there is a divider in the left for the people handing out and the people getting the handouts. This divider is designed to separate the elite from the elite-made down trodden, the dependent....the poor. Here enters socialism

So who's fault is it.....really?......its those that want something for nothing.... the same individuals that can't stand the sight of what is in their own mirror that are quick to blame those that can stand the sight of their own reflection.

This is the same broken record that has played the same lame song over and over and over again. Its not about the have's and have not's. It's about the "works for it" a dying group, and the "get's it for free", the sheep being lead to conformity.

If we want change, we have to actually work for it, and not many are willing to put forth the effort.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 12:07 PM   #47
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So I guess I am for some one that is inline with my "belief system". At the end of the day, I am a Christian, and tend to lean toward the candidate that I feel will uphold my beliefs to the best if their ability. It just seems time after time that I lean toward the right, aggressively.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 12:41 PM   #48
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Obama = tax more, spend more, go in debt more, more government control, more gun control.
Any Repub lican = tax equal or less, spend equal or less, less debt, less government control, less gun control.

Me = Repub lican over Obama.

Do I agree with the Repub lican candidates completely? No, but I prefer them.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 12:54 PM   #49
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I do not care for eathef one. Voting for one of the other parties. I know they will not win. But maybe if there is a lot of votes it will make the assholes think.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 01:11 PM   #50
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I hear ya. Gun control. Another socialistic idea spawned by two groups, the "elite" and the spineless. I am a middle class/working class, (stress on the working part) republican. This is a debate since the beginning of time.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 01:32 PM   #51
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If the people all stood up like our ancestors did and demanded change from the people in charge and be willing to fight for it. They would be considered terrorists instead of americans fighting for what they believe in. How did we get to this point?
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If the people all stood up like our ancestors did and demanded change from the people in charge and be willing to fight for it. They would be considered terrorists instead of americans fighting for what they believe in. How did we get to this point?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 01:59 PM   #53
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Obama = tax more, spend more, go in debt more, more government control, more gun control.
Any Repub lican = tax equal or less, spend equal or less, less debt, less government control, less gun control.

Me = Repub lican over Obama.

Do I agree with the Repub lican candidates completely? No, but I prefer them.
^This.

This is a good thread. No real bashing going on and allot of great points.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 02:06 PM   #54
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Obama = tax more, spend more, go in debt more, more government control, more gun control.
Any Repub lican = tax equal or less, spend equal or less, less debt, less government control, less gun control.

Me = Repub lican over Obama.

Do I agree with the Repub lican candidates completely? No, but I prefer them.
Since when do the tax less? I mess with you fools on here and say Obama rules. But I actually don't care much for him. But I tell you this I'd vote for him or another form of a monkey before I would
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Since when do the tax less? I mess with you fools on here and say Obama rules. But I actually don't care much for him. But I tell you this I'd vote for him or another form of a monkey before I would
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Should I mark this in the column as anyone but a republican or anyone but Mitt specifically?
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Sure Mitt sucks a bag of dicks.
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I can't support any of the GOP candidates. It's sad, we know there are better examples out there of a peoples republican. I have historically voted Dem, and will continue to do so becuase that is where the majority of my beliefs align.

At this point, until our elected government can work together towards positive change, it wont really matter a whole lot who is in that seat.
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I know its pretty limited but it seems as though all of the guys that are voting democrat are voting for the party, not the man.
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I know its pretty limited but it seems as though all of the guys that are voting democrat are voting for the party, not the man.
So let me make sure I'm understanding what you are looking for.

You are looking for someone that believes the president as an individual person is responsible for something positive that has happened in the last 3.5 years and is therefor voting for him based on that?
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I know its pretty limited but it seems as though all of the guys that are voting democrat are voting for the party, not the man.
I would consider my probable vote for Obama as more of a vote against the Republican candidates than as a vote for the Democratic party.
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