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Old March 2nd, 2012, 08:20 PM   #1
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I am building a Ford L.P. Dana 44 for my truggy. I picked up a set of chevy knuckles, single piston caliper brackets, and spindles all from the chevy so I can run high steer since they are all set up for them. When I put these knuckles on what should I order the ball joints for? The ford or the chevy or doesn't it make a difference because they are more than likely the same? I was curious of that....and if they are different and I do need the chevy ones what year should I say it is from if ordering from rockauto to ensure I order them for a 44 and not a 10 bolt?
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(using a 1976 K10 ball joint part number interchanges below)





Upper ball joint is same on

Buyers Guide
Make Model Engine Year(s)
Chevrolet Truck Blazer K5 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Blazer K5 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck K10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K20 Panel Delivery 1970 - 1970
Chevrolet Truck K20 Panel Delivery 1970 - 1970
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck V10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Chevrolet Truck V10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Chevrolet Truck V20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Chevrolet Truck V20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1974 - 1981
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1974 - 1981
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1988 - 1988
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1988 - 1988
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW150 1/2 Ton 4WD 1982 - 1993
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW150 1/2 Ton 4WD 1982 - 1993
Dodge Truck RD200 3/4 Ton RR Track - Pickup 1978 - 1978
Dodge Truck RD200 3/4 Ton RR Track - Pickup 1978 - 1978
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1977
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1977
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1984 - 1989
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1984 - 1989
Dodge Truck W150 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1977 - 1993
Dodge Truck W150 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1977 - 1993
Dodge Truck W200 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W200 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W250 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1993
Dodge Truck W250 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1993
Dodge Truck W300 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W300 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W350 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1993
Dodge Truck W350 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1993
Ford Truck Bronco 1971 - 1979
Ford Truck Bronco 1971 - 1979
Ford Truck F100 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1971 - 1976
Ford Truck F100 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1971 - 1976
Ford Truck F150 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1976 - 1979
Ford Truck F150 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1976 - 1979
Ford Truck F250 3/4 Ton - Pickup 1974 - 1979
Ford Truck F250 3/4 Ton - Pickup 1974 - 1979
GMC Truck Jimmy K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Jimmy K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Jimmy V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Jimmy V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
GMC Truck K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
GMC Truck V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
GMC Truck V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
GMC Truck V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
International 100 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1974 - 1974
International 100 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1974 - 1974
International 1100D 1/2 Ton 1971 - 1971
International 1100D 1/2 Ton 1971 - 1971
International 1110 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1971 - 1971
International 1110 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1971 - 1971
International 150 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1975 - 1975
International 150 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1975 - 1975
International Scout 1975 - 1980
International Scout 1975 - 1980
International Scout II 1971 - 1974
International Scout II 1971 - 1974
International Scout XLC 1975 - 1980
International Scout XLC 1975 - 1980
Jeep Cherokee 1974 - 1983
Jeep CJ5 1972 - 1983
Jeep CJ6 1972 - 1975
Jeep CJ7 1976 - 1986
Jeep Grand Wagoneer 1984 - 1991
Jeep J10 - Pickup 1974 - 1987
Jeep J20 - Pickup 1974 - 1987
Jeep Jeepster 3.8 L 232 CID L6 1972 - 1973
Jeep Jeepster 4.2 L 258 CID L6 1972 - 1973
Jeep Jeepster 5.0 L 304 CID V8 1972 - 1973
Jeep Scrambler 1981 - 1985
Jeep Wagoneer 1974 - 1983
Plymouth Truck Trail Duster 1974 - 1981





Lower ball joint is same on

Buyers Guide
Make Model Engine Year(s)
Chevrolet Truck Blazer K5 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Blazer K5 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Blazer V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck K10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck K20 Panel Delivery 1970 - 1970
Chevrolet Truck K20 Panel Delivery 1970 - 1970
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban K20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V10 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V20 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1988
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1989 - 1991
Chevrolet Truck V10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Chevrolet Truck V10 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Chevrolet Truck V20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Chevrolet Truck V20 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
Dodge Truck Ram 1500 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1994 - 1999
Dodge Truck Ram 1500 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1994 - 1999
Dodge Truck Ram 2500 3/4 Ton - Pickup 1995 - 1999
Dodge Truck Ram 2500 3/4 Ton - Pickup 1995 - 1999
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1974 - 1981
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1974 - 1981
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1988 - 1988
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW100 1/2 Ton 4WD 1988 - 1988
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW150 1/2 Ton 4WD 1982 - 1993
Dodge Truck RamCharger-AW150 1/2 Ton 4WD 1982 - 1993
Dodge Truck RD200 3/4 Ton RR Track - Pickup 1978 - 1978
Dodge Truck RD200 3/4 Ton RR Track - Pickup 1978 - 1978
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1977
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1977
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1984 - 1989
Dodge Truck W100 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1984 - 1989
Dodge Truck W150 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1977 - 1993
Dodge Truck W150 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1977 - 1993
Dodge Truck W200 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W200 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W250 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1993
Dodge Truck W250 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1993
Dodge Truck W300 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W300 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1972 - 1980
Dodge Truck W350 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1985
Dodge Truck W350 1 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1981 - 1985
Ford Truck Bronco 1971 - 1996
Ford Truck Bronco 1971 - 1996
Ford Truck F100 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1971 - 1976
Ford Truck F100 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1971 - 1976
Ford Truck F100 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1983 - 1983
Ford Truck F100 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1983 - 1983
Ford Truck F150 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1976 - 1996
Ford Truck F150 1/2 Ton - Pickup 1976 - 1996
Ford Truck F250 3/4 Ton - Pickup 1974 - 1996
Ford Truck F250 3/4 Ton - Pickup 1974 - 1996
Ford Truck F350 1 Ton - Pickup 1980 - 1981
Ford Truck F350 1 Ton - Pickup 1980 - 1981
GMC Truck Jimmy K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Jimmy K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Jimmy V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Jimmy V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
GMC Truck K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1970 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban K2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1971 - 1986
GMC Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Suburban V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck Suburban V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD 1987 - 1991
GMC Truck V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
GMC Truck V1500 1/2 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
GMC Truck V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
GMC Truck V2500 3/4 Ton 4WD - Pickup 1987 - 1987
International 100 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1974 - 1974
International 100 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1974 - 1974
International 1100D 1/2 Ton 1971 - 1971
International 1100D 1/2 Ton 1971 - 1971
International 1110 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1971 - 1971
International 1110 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1971 - 1971
International 150 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1975 - 1975
International 150 - 1/2 Ton Pickup 1975 - 1975
International Scout 1975 - 1980
International Scout 1975 - 1980
International Scout II 1971 - 1974
International Scout II 1971 - 1974
International Scout XLC 1975 - 1980
International Scout XLC 1975 - 1980
Jeep Cherokee 1974 - 1983
Jeep CJ5 1972 - 1983
Jeep CJ6 1972 - 1975
Jeep CJ7 1976 - 1986
Jeep Grand Wagoneer 1984 - 1991
Jeep J10 - Pickup 1974 - 1987
Jeep J20 - Pickup 1974 - 1987
Jeep Jeepster 3.8 L 232 CID L6 1972 - 1973
Jeep Jeepster 4.2 L 258 CID L6 1972 - 1973
Jeep Jeepster 5.0 L 304 CID V8 1972 - 1973
Jeep Scrambler 1981 - 1985
Jeep Wagoneer 1974 - 1983
Plymouth Truck Trail Duster 1974 - 1981
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Im building a similar axle for my Tahoe. (HP Dana 44 with Chevy outer). From what I found, you will have to change out the outer stub shafts for chevy ones. They are different lengths.
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Im building a similar axle for my Tahoe. (HP Dana 44 with Chevy outer). From what I found, you will have to change out the outer stub shafts for chevy ones. They are different lengths.
Not true about changing them out. Yes they are different lengths. The end of the short ford ones are threaded. You can use a bolt and washer for this.

The way it worked when I did the was I had a few stub shafts and didn't know where they came from. Some were extra long with 2 snap ring locations. Some just had a single snap ring location and was short (i think this was the ford). I ran a few that were long but with only one snap ring location (think these were the chevy ones). You need the outer snap ring location to hold your lockout in. If you had the shaft with 2 snap rings, you used the outer, If you had the shaft with the one and was longer, it works on that one. If you have the shorter shaft with only one, that is when you used the bolt and washer.
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I am building a Ford L.P. Dana 44 for my truggy. I picked up a set of chevy knuckles, single piston caliper brackets, and spindles all from the chevy so I can run high steer since they are all set up for them. When I put these knuckles on what should I order the ball joints for? The ford or the chevy or doesn't it make a difference because they are more than likely the same? I was curious of that....and if they are different and I do need the chevy ones what year should I say it is from if ordering from rockauto to ensure I order them for a 44 and not a 10 bolt?
ive used Mr.N's site a lot. read through it 3 or 4 times, im sure im still missing stuff that could answer my questions.

as for BJs, i believe they interchange... ford, chevy, FSJ.


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Im building a similar axle for my Tahoe. (HP Dana 44 with Chevy outer). From what I found, you will have to change out the outer stub shafts for chevy ones. They are different lengths.
ive been told and read this too.


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Not true about changing them out. Yes they are different lengths. The end of the short ford ones are threaded. You can use a bolt and washer for this.

The way it worked when I did the was I had a few stub shafts and didn't know where they came from. Some were extra long with 2 snap ring locations. Some just had a single snap ring location and was short (i think this was the ford). I ran a few that were long but with only one snap ring location (think these were the chevy ones). You need the outer snap ring location to hold your lockout in. If you had the shaft with 2 snap rings, you used the outer, If you had the shaft with the one and was longer, it works on that one. If you have the shorter shaft with only one, that is when you used the bolt and washer.
i have 5 ford stubs sitting in the shed, none of them are threaded. the FSJ and chevy stubs should be longer by a C hair like your sayng... 9 23/32 vs 9 15/16. i guess its enough to make a difference.






to the OP... any chance your wanting to run 8 lug? if so, PM me. i have the spindles youll need, im looking for the ones you probably have if your chevy outers are 6 lug.
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I have 8 lug spindles and ford inner and outer shafts....should i need the chevy stub shafts? A buddy ran the fords in his with no c clip on the shaft and said they worked fine....what should i do?
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