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Old February 28th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #41
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on a somewhat related topic, I HATE songs or sound-bites on the radio that have a siren in them... I'm almost suprised there isn't an FCC regualtion against it.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #42
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on a somewhat related topic, I HATE songs or sound-bites on the radio that have a siren in them... I'm almost suprised there isn't an FCC regualtion against it.
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On the expressway, people usually just get out of our way. On divided highways, people on the opposing side of traffic don't have to stop, but people going the same way as us do.
honestly, in Michigan I'm surprised you guys can keep up with expressway traffic.

I have merged onto I75 or I696 more than once only to see a code 3 response coming up as I carve through the partial clover leaf, I merge into the right hand lane, and hit my freeway cruising speed and never see the responder close the gap, and eventually fade in the rear view mirror.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 04:20 PM   #43
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honestly, in Michigan I'm surprised you guys can keep up with expressway traffic.

I have merged onto I75 or I696 more than once only to see a code 3 response coming up as I carve through the partial clover leaf, I merge into the right hand lane, and hit my freeway cruising speed and never see the responder close the gap, and eventually fade in the rear view mirror.
Most companies, mine included, have a protocol that states how fast you're actually allowed to drive in a given situation. Ours is 15mph over the speed limit while running priority one (code 3). If you figure the speed limit on most expressways is 70mph, that means we can run 85mph. That's just about cruising speed for anything in SE Michigan, and even a bit slow for I696.
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Lame, i can only code at 10 over. We have driving monitors that beep at you if you do over 70 driving normal traffic or 80 coding. They are not so accurate tho and will usually allow another 3-4mph.

Ive been told that if you have lights and siren on and are hit for any reason by anyone, you are immediately at fault.

I also drive as if my lights/siren are a request for the other people on the road to yield me their right of way. I do not ever expect people to actually see me or get out of the way in an appropriate or predictable manner

This is another reason I like working nights, less people on the road and the ones out there can actually see your lights

Btw, Im guessing you work for Alliance?

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Old February 28th, 2012, 04:55 PM   #45
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This drives me nuts too.

I remember years ago hearing about some system ambulances were supposed to get that would override a car sound system, similar to an FM modulator. I think this was also before satellite radio and iPods existed so it probably got scrapped.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:08 PM   #46
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Lame, i can only code at 10 over. We have driving monitors that beep at you if you do over 70 driving normal traffic or 80 coding. They are not so accurate tho and will usually allow another 3-4mph.

Ive been told that if you have lights and siren on and are hit for any reason by anyone, you are immediately at fault.

I also drive as if my lights/siren are a request for the other people on the road to yield me their right of way. I do not ever expect people to actually see me or get out of the way in an appropriate or predictable manner

This is another reason I like working nights, less people on the road and the ones out there can actually see your lights

Btw, Im guessing you work for Alliance?
We don't have the monitors, but I was told that while you're driving code, you basically have a 50/50 shot of the supervisor watching your drivecam footage as part of our "QA".

Per Michigan law, an emergency vehicle has to drive with "due regard". That means just what you said about "requesting the right of way". They have the legal responsibility to move out of the way, but we also have the responsibility to avoid hitting them if they don't. Due regard means that we can't just blast through a stop sign and expect everyone to stop for us. That doesn't mean we're automatically at fault during a collision, but a good majority of the time, it's our fault.

Night shift seems like a toss-up. Down here, you're not likely to have much traffic to begin with, and any time it's after midnight, you have a pretty good chance that you'll be sharing the road with some ++ETOH folk.

Nope, I'm not with Alliance.
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I think this may go back to the issue of people in our society being too self absorbed to even care to pull over. Clearly, where they are going and their priorities are much more important than the person who may be dying. This morning I was leaving my sub and had stopped for a bus who was picking up kids, and this woman in a little car goes cruizing around me and past the bus even though the red lights are flashing.
What is wrong with people?
I started reading your post but lost interest and started thinking of this response.
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Most companies, mine included, have a protocol that states how fast you're actually allowed to drive in a given situation. Ours is 15mph over the speed limit while running priority one (code 3). If you figure the speed limit on most expressways is 70mph, that means we can run 85mph. That's just about cruising speed for anything in SE Michigan, and even a bit slow for I696.
yeah, I've seen that 10-15 mph over referenced in other threads. I have also heard of some units that are governed?

my personal experience is the medium duty and larger first responders (including fire apparatus) is that they rarely exceed 75 mph.

I honestly don't recall if I've seen a van chassis exceed 80 mph.

For what it's worth, the vast majority of my e-way driving is less than 10 mph over, with occasional blips to pass merging traffic, or get some separation from "herds"
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yeah, I've seen that 10-15 mph over referenced in other threads. I have also heard of some units that are governed?

my personal experience is the medium duty and larger first responders (including fire apparatus) is that they rarely exceed 75 mph.

I honestly don't recall if I've seen a van chassis exceed 80 mph.

For what it's worth, the vast majority of my e-way driving is less than 10 mph over, with occasional blips to pass merging traffic, or get some separation from "herds"
Our engine and ladder is governed at 72. The ambulances, at least the new one here, will do well over 100, and I am not joking. Rumor is that it cuts out around 103. I believe it. I've been in the back doing compression going down the highway and coming into a long curve. At those speeds, it was enough to toss me around.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #50
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im not to exceed +10mph RLS. However our local ambulance service likes to recklessly speed (60 in a 30) moving from one staging post to another. I know this from clinicals.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 04:25 PM   #51
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For those that are in EMS, Zoll's RoadSafety 3000 sucks. Second, Duramax is always better then Ford on ambulances. Third, I agree that drivers are retards. I work FLINT.
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