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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #1
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As hard working Americans our money goes for alot of things, we support the non-working class of leaches in this country. It is not voluntary that we do this. It is forced on us by the liberal mindset of the people thinking it is thier right to be taken care of. So our government takes this responsibility upon themselves to take care of the people.
We pay for mistakes made by our own government and also governments around the world that seem to be going bankrupt because they also support the people(socialism).
So when the money runs out, then what? print more?

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Old January 8th, 2012, 08:02 PM   #2
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Then we finish stealing from the rich! Surely they don't deserve their stuff.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 07:57 AM   #3
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Old January 12th, 2012, 09:42 AM   #4
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americans dont work hard, thats why we sent all of our manufacturing overseas.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 11:52 AM   #5
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americans dont work hard, thats why we sent all of our manufacturing overseas.
It's more because labor overseas is so cheap and the company can turn around and sell there product here in the states for the same prices.

Nothing wrong with making a profit, but when all the jobs started going overseas, less work for people here and then in turn less money to buy said products.

If they do bring a manufacturing job to the states, it is a entry level job and the people making the products cant even afford to buy what they are making.

Sure go get a degree and get a high paying job, but there are more people looking for these jobs then there are the Jobs to get.

The days of the middle class making it in this country are going to a part of history.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #6
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It's more because labor overseas is so cheap and the company can turn around and sell there product here in the states for the same prices.

Nothing wrong with making a profit, but when all the jobs started going overseas, less work for people here and then in turn less money to buy said products.

If they do bring a manufacturing job to the states, it is a entry level job and the people making the products cant even afford to buy what they are making.

Sure go get a degree and get a high paying job, but there are more people looking for these jobs then there are the Jobs to get.

The days of the middle class making it in this country are going to a part of history.
How many degree holding do nothing drones are there out there? I have a high paying job w/o a degree, but i have a high level of skill and I am willing to work anywhere any time. We lost the manufacturing jobs because of overpaid lazy cry baby workers. Period. I am in north dakota right now and all the people working in the hotels, stores, gas stations are foreigners. They are willing to work, unlike the 50+ million americans collecting food stamps right now. Wal mart out here is paying 18/hr for night stockers and they cannot find them.
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How many degree holding do nothing drones are there out there? I have a high paying job w/o a degree, but i have a high level of skill and I am willing to work anywhere any time. We lost the manufacturing jobs because of overpaid lazy cry baby workers. Period. I am in north dakota right now and all the people working in the hotels, stores, gas stations are foreigners. They are willing to work, unlike the 50+ million americans collecting food stamps right now. Wal mart out here is paying 18/hr for night stockers and they cannot find them.
Ya know, you do actually have some pretty good opinions on things...sometimes.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 02:55 PM   #8
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How many degree holding do nothing drones are there out there? I have a high paying job w/o a degree, but i have a high level of skill and I am willing to work anywhere any time. We lost the manufacturing jobs because of overpaid lazy cry baby workers. Period. I am in north dakota right now and all the people working in the hotels, stores, gas stations are foreigners. They are willing to work, unlike the 50+ million americans collecting food stamps right now. Wal mart out here is paying 18/hr for night stockers and they cannot find them.
Your line of work is a high paying job and is hard work, so it pays well. Those jobs are not everywhere and if there were those type of jobs all over the country , the country wouldn't be as bad as it is.

The fact of the matter is that the cost of living went thru the roof, and everyone and there cousin is trying to live the dream and not in reality.

The big companies are not willing to pay people a decent wage, because it will cut into there profit margins, so they ship everything over seas and sell it here for the same price to make the investors more money.

Dont get me wrong, if you invest you should make money, but people cant say that there are a ton of jobs out there that you can live off of, because there not there.

Skilled trades,The Medical Field and some Tech Jobs are really the only jobs that are going to make it in the future, because everything else can be outsourced.

Hell even the military is being cut back, and then all the guys and girls coming back from there deployment are going to be shit out of luck, unless they have a special training.

The days of getting a decent job are long gone, and there are more People then Jobs.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 02:56 PM   #9
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How many degree holding do nothing drones are there out there? I have a high paying job w/o a degree, but i have a high level of skill and I am willing to work anywhere any time. We lost the manufacturing jobs because of overpaid lazy cry baby workers. Period. I am in north dakota right now and all the people working in the hotels, stores, gas stations are foreigners. They are willing to work, unlike the 50+ million americans collecting food stamps right now. Wal mart out here is paying 18/hr for night stockers and they cannot find them.
Bitching and moaning is easier than working your ass off.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 02:57 PM   #10
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Your line of work is a high paying job and is hard work, so it pays well. Those jobs are not everywhere and if there were those type of jobs all over the country , the country wouldn't be as bad as it is.

The fact of the matter is that the cost of living went thru the roof, and everyone and there cousin is trying to live the dream and not in reality.

The big companies are not willing to pay people a decent wage, because it will cut into there profit margins, so they ship everything over seas and sell it here for the same price to make the investors more money.

Dont get me wrong, if you invest you should make money, but people cant say that there are a ton of jobs out there that you can live off of, because there not there.

Skilled trades,The Medical Field and some Tech Jobs are really the only jobs that are going to make it in the future, because everything else can be outsourced.

Hell even the military is being cut back, and then all the guys and girls coming back from there deployment are going to be shit out of luck, unless they have a special training.

The days of getting a decent job are long gone, and there are more People then Jobs.
There are a huge amount of baby boomers going and about to go out of the job market so the number of jobs opening up should be plenty in the coming years.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 02:59 PM   #11
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It is nice having a skill that cannot be outsourced. As long as the Mexicans and chaldeans stick to paint and drywall I should be good.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 03:27 PM   #12
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It is nice having a skill that cannot be outsourced. As long as the Mexicans and chaldeans stick to paint and drywall I should be good.
Since when do the Chaldean do paint or drywall? I see most of them running party stores and restraunts...
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Old January 12th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #13
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They are hard working business owners and are buying up a lot of buildings and businesses. They use almost exclusively Chaldean trades people as well. Cheap, cheap. :) I think they have issues with getting poopy, because there are no Chaldean/middle eastern plumbers that I know of. We work for a bunch of them and are usually the only white boys on the job.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #14
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Your line of work is a high paying job and is hard work, so it pays well. Those jobs are not everywhere and if there were those type of jobs all over the country , the country wouldn't be as bad as it is.

The fact of the matter is that the cost of living went thru the roof, and everyone and there cousin is trying to live the dream and not in reality.

The big companies are not willing to pay people a decent wage, because it will cut into there profit margins, so they ship everything over seas and sell it here for the same price to make the investors more money.

Dont get me wrong, if you invest you should make money, but people cant say that there are a ton of jobs out there that you can live off of, because there not there.

Skilled trades,The Medical Field and some Tech Jobs are really the only jobs that are going to make it in the future, because everything else can be outsourced.

Hell even the military is being cut back, and then all the guys and girls coming back from there deployment are going to be shit out of luck, unless they have a special training.

The days of getting a decent job are long gone, and there are more People then Jobs.
Before you take it out on the big companies that you feel are outsourcing only to make a couple more bucks, you should check into how expensive it is to do business in this country.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 04:34 PM   #15
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How many degree holding do nothing drones are there out there? I have a high paying job w/o a degree, but i have a high level of skill and I am willing to work anywhere any time. We lost the manufacturing jobs because of overpaid lazy cry baby workers. Period. I am in north dakota right now and all the people working in the hotels, stores, gas stations are foreigners. They are willing to work, unlike the 50+ million americans collecting food stamps right now. Wal mart out here is paying 18/hr for night stockers and they cannot find them.
north dakota? you wouldnt happen to be working in the oil fields would you?

Ive seriously considered packing my shit and heading out that way, but companies arent hiring unskilled or no experienced people. and I'm not moving to ND to work at walmart. plus i hate walmart.
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north dakota? you wouldnt happen to be working in the oil fields would you?

Ive seriously considered packing my shit and heading out that way, but companies arent hiring unskilled or no experienced people. and I'm not moving to ND to work at walmart. plus i hate walmart.
well damn he was looking for a guy to stand on some steal plate while he weldered it but he couldnt find anyone for the job
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well damn he was looking for a guy to stand on some steal plate while he weldered it but he couldnt find anyone for the job
im not that unskilled. nor that stupid. thanks though
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north dakota? you wouldnt happen to be working in the oil fields would you?

Ive seriously considered packing my shit and heading out that way, but companies arent hiring unskilled or no experienced people. and I'm not moving to ND to work at walmart. plus i hate walmart.
I am a supervisor/welder/NDT guy at a tank construction company. I am in north dakota for a month. I hate this place and would rather suck a dick than be here. there is no housing, the weather is fucking horrible and there is nothing out here. you can have north dakota and be welcome to it.

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well damn he was looking for a guy to stand on some steal plate while he weldered it but he couldnt find anyone for the job
I am plauged by lazy idiots. the two goons i have helping me are lazy, insolent and have zero skills. one of them cannot read fractions. thanks public school for producing these all stars.

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im not that unskilled. nor that stupid. thanks though
yeah, I have a feeling you are severly underqualified.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #19
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It is nice having a skill that cannot be outsourced. As long as the Mexicans and chaldeans stick to paint and drywall I should be good.
Theyre roofing now too Rob.....give it time and theyll be plumbing too.

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Lol. I hear you there! Although they do take a liking to trowels quite often...
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