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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:25 PM   #1
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The USSR failed at it, Cuba is barely hanging on, but China may end up owning the world.


What did China do that the others didn't?





(I have my opinion, but interested in what others think)
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:29 PM   #2
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Killed women.
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Killed women.
To be specific- they killed female babies.
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They figured out how to export.
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also learned how to profit from it.
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They dont give two shits about there environment, so they are able to pollute and destroy there land and sea while manufacturing low cost/quality products for the rest of the world to consume.
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They dont give two shits about there environment, so they are able to pollute and destroy there land and sea while manufacturing low cost/quality products for the rest of the world to consume.
Thats part of how we got to where we were.
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China went communist and sort of kept their mouths shut about it. Russia tried to bully people into communism and found an ally in Cuba, who was located close to their biggest threat. Which in turn caused the biggest economy in the world to ignore them both.

Mean while China stayed in the 19th century and took tiny steps into the 20th and did it quietly for the most part. During that time we went all "America fukc Yeah" and grew a strong desire for instant gratification. While developing that desire we also didn't want to pay anything for it. So we looked for places to build stuff for us as cheap as possible and found out the Asians were good at it. So we had them build our low quality crap for us for pennies on the dollar. After a while the economies in those smaller Asian countries grew and so did the amount they were charging us for that cheap crap that we wanted right now.

Eventually that led us to China. A country that never really did anything to us, never posed a threat and didn't try to make us see that Communism was the best. So no they have us to support them and pay them to provide the products for our need for instant gratification at a cheap price. They saved the money we paid them for the cheap crap they made, barley paid their people for the work they did building our cheap crap. While we proceeded to stick our financial heads further up our asses all the time saying "America fukc Yeah" causing us to need to borrow money from somebody to help keep our instant gratification fed. China said "we have a lot of money you can borrow with a fairly cheap interest rate", "how much do you need?'".

And that is why China has succeeded at communism where Russia and Cuba have failed.
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They succeeded by throwing out Marx's doctrine on communism; not that the USSR or Cuba followed it either.
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China went communist and sort of kept their mouths shut about it. Russia tried to bully people into communism and found an ally in Cuba, who was located close to their biggest threat. Which in turn caused the biggest economy in the world to ignore them both.

Mean while China stayed in the 19th century and took tiny steps into the 20th and did it quietly for the most part. During that time we went all "America fukc Yeah" and grew a strong desire for instant gratification. While developing that desire we also didn't want to pay anything for it. So we looked for places to build stuff for us as cheap as possible and found out the Asians were good at it. So we had them build our low quality crap for us for pennies on the dollar. After a while the economies in those smaller Asian countries grew and so did the amount they were charging us for that cheap crap that we wanted right now.

Eventually that led us to China. A country that never really did anything to us, never posed a threat and didn't try to make us see that Communism was the best. So no they have us to support them and pay them to provide the products for our need for instant gratification at a cheap price. They saved the money we paid them for the cheap crap they made, barley paid their people for the work they did building our cheap crap. While we proceeded to stick our financial heads further up our asses all the time saying "America fukc Yeah" causing us to need to borrow money from somebody to help keep our instant gratification fed. China said "we have a lot of money you can borrow with a fairly cheap interest rate", "how much do you need?'".

And that is why China has succeeded at communism where Russia and Cuba have failed.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 09:58 AM   #12
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Since you like it so much, I'm sure we can take up donations here, to ship you there.
Where did I say I liked it?
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They dont give two shits about there environment, so they are able to pollute and destroy there land and sea while manufacturing low cost/quality products for the rest of the world to consume.
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But I'm not sure that explains how Communism is working for them.

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Thats part of how we got to where we were.
While that may be true it doesn't make doing it now right. We know better now, or at least I'd hope so. Otherwise parents would still blow smoke in their kids faces sealed in cars with no seat belts after leaving a house covered in lead paint with asbestos insulation. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but the message is the same. We should learn from our mistakes.

The Chinese are churning out shit at pennies on the dollar with zero regard for their future. You don't have to be a greenie to see that poisoning your water supply. the same water supply that all of your fish based diet comes from, is a bad long term plan. They are putting profit ahead of their environment and it will fukc them at some point, and probably all of us as well.

But until the world quits having the desire of having 2 cars per person, a pc, laptop, and lcd tv in every room along with cell phones and every other gadget on the planet they will have a reason to keep doing it.

We all is fucked, yo.
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They figured out how to export.
Yeah I think this is a better reason of why it works. They do it, they make money, and they throw their people just enough of the pie to make them think they are free and all.

Kinda like our government is doing to us...
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Yeah I think this is a better reason of why it works. They do it, they make money, and they throw their people just enough of the pie to make them think they are free and all.

Kinda like our government is doing to us...
Correct for the most part.
China is not a true communist country. They are more government controlled capitalist.
And we are headed in the same direction.
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Yeah I think this is a better reason of why it works. They do it, they make money, and they throw their people just enough of the pie to make them think they are free and all.

Kinda like our government is doing to us...
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Correct for the most part.
China is not a true communist country. They are more government controlled capitalist.
And we are headed in the same direction.
I wish more people could see it this way.

BTW, in a true Marxist society government would 'whither away' (Karl Marx's description) as it would not be required with all goods and labor benefitting the community. However, as the USSR proved, this does not scale well.

In reality, China works like a large scale Detroit City Council- you can do business here, but the government gets a cut of the business along with the tax.
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china seems more feudalism than communism... Which works great until the serfs get tired of being treated that way.
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