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Old December 29th, 2011, 09:11 AM   #1
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Default Recovery Straps.....

It's a few years old but great info.
In 2003 Australian 4WD Action Magazine solicited straps from all know manufacturers in Australia to test their ratings. Some failred well, some not so well. A few manufactures products are available in the US like ARB.
What's more interesting is page 6 of the article.
Especially for those who have had their straps for a few years and have been well used. Also for some who's straps have seen better days and shold be discarded a long time ago.
Note in particular the strap with the knot in it. Breaking strength reduced by nearly -44%. I have seen plenty of those over the last few years. Same holds true for used straps and dirty and muddy ones, both reduced by -24% and -21% respectively.
What's missing is the recent influx of ropes to the recovery scene. I think I'll try and prod one or two of our big name stateside 4WD MAgazines to undertake a new look at recovery straps and tree trunk protectors as 90% or more don't understand that there is a difference between the two from a material standpoint and stretch capability.

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Link below may also work . You just have to paste it in a new browser window exactly as it appears below.

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Old December 29th, 2011, 09:16 AM   #2
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Must be off this week huh? Post up the info on joining two straps together too.
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Old December 29th, 2011, 10:02 AM   #3
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That should have been in the new DNR guidebook but it is not! Apparently it fell to the cutting room floor as usual again, just like every other full size information does with our DNR. They may have given us money for our rock courses but that wasn't without some teeth knashing and plenty of arm twisting from the 'inside'. I will go find it and post it here also.
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Here's the original link and discussion. I believe #4 is DNR displayed option, Option #3 is widely used by those with experience to know how far to push the envelope when it comes to strap recovery.

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Old December 29th, 2011, 11:38 AM   #4
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What's missing is the recent influx of ropes to the recovery scene. I think I'll try and prod one or two of our big name stateside 4WD MAgazines to undertake a new look at recovery straps and tree trunk protectors as 90% or more don't understand that there is a difference between the two from a material standpoint and stretch capability.

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I was thoroughly confused when I dug into a brand new ARB recovery bag this past summer while doing some training with the MI DNR. They had 3 or 4 different ARB "straps" that all looked superficially the same other than color and length. However in reading the tags on each one we found we had a tree saver, a recoverey strap, a winch extension line, and a kinetic energy "rope". Each had a different rating, different composition, and when we got them out and played with them very different charactersitics. I think it's great that they offer a wide variety of tools in their recovery bags but you really have to stop and read the label on each one unless you know green means tree saver and purple is for extending your winch line.
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P.I.T.A. but the link is in the first post. Paste exactly.
Yep, ARB at least color coordinates the straps and is seeking an industry standard on it.
I'll admit I'm nieve when it comes to ropes as I've never used them or owned one. I'd be interested in seeing a nice side by side testing of them and straps.
Not aware that ARB had a rope. It's not listed in any of their literature.
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Green, orange and purple (Tree saver, recovery, winch extension) are the ones on their website, so the KE rope we used for comparison must have been mine. I'm getting old, memory is fading....
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Which rope do you have? Diameter?

I've been conversing with some of the mags on a comparison test. They are all to familiar with the Australian test. Their reply was along the lines of:

'We'll do a test right after all the Lawyers are exported from the U.S.'.

They have told me that a rope test of some sort is in the works.

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Mine is a Master Pull 1" x 30' rope rated at 33k. Booby prize from SnoFari a few years back, came with my "SoStuck" award. I still carry a 2" x 20 ' yellow tow strap too, sometimes 30' is too long and sometimes I don't need to give someone help to get going they just need to be relocated. The rope works great at the dunes and in the snow.
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