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Old December 13th, 2011, 02:41 PM   #1
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I'm in the process of re working the rear of my rig.

With the parts I have I can run a 1310 cv on the transfer case and a 1350 single joint on the axle side. Or I can run a high angle 1350 single joint from tom woods on the transfer case and a 1350 on the axle end too.

What would be better?

I would link a picture of the joint I'm trying to explain but Tom Woods website is down.



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Old December 13th, 2011, 02:48 PM   #2
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how is your rear pinon set? if you're pointed at the t-case use the cv shaft.
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Old December 13th, 2011, 02:49 PM   #3
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If you have the length so you wouldnt need a cv style I dont see why you wouldnt want to run the single 1350-1350 style driveshaft.

You do need a little diffrent pinion angle to run the other style, but I wouldnt let that be a deciding factor
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I can set the pinion any way I need to (4 link) I get enough travel outta the single joint for now I think I'll run the 1350 and when I get to re-work the rear again I'll get a 1350 CV ( need to move my coil overs inside the frame rails to get more travel)
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Old December 13th, 2011, 03:11 PM   #5
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Are you talking about an offset joint? I know a lot of guys run them but I've never liked the idea for a couple reasons. 1) availability. Make sure you have spares because they are not readily available at any 'ol auto parts.
2) I have heard they vibrate more. Don't know if this is true but since I run some highway runs between trails I don't need any more vibrations.

But, if you carry spares and don't do much highway use, I don't see a problem.
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Yep got a spare in the truck. Thanks Jim, figure I was already getting 100% of my rears travel outta that one joint with the 3 piece shaft so I'll run it again but this time at the transfer case rather than that stupid carrier bearing.
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what is the range of your operating angle on the t-case end, that's the other determining factor here...
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Old December 13th, 2011, 03:37 PM   #8
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I'm not positive yet with the new yoke on the TCase I'll know more when it gets here.

But I had this joint on the previous setup and it was the same angle I may have to clearance the yoke a bit to get full movement outta it. I updated the first post with a pic of the high angle joint.
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Old December 13th, 2011, 03:58 PM   #9
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They vibrate, and it's noticeable.
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But how's the strength of the 1310 CV compared to the 1350 single joint?
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Ive also heard bad things about those joints and agreed about being hard to get in a pinch (forget or lose spare or break spare)

Its debatable but talk is a standard 1350 is the strongest joint of the 4 main sizes, same size cap as 1410 but smaller cross so less likly break off or hit things. BUT 1350 also have the least amount of usable angle which is why i prefer 1410 (have the most usable angle). I run 1350 at my case f&r and 1410 at the axles. Since switching ive yet to break a ujoint (grease every trip tho) but i have to limit my droop otherwise the joints at the case bind. Plan to go all 1410 when money is there etc etc

My .02 is keep it simple, run stuff you can get at any part store and whats common. So i vote for the single joint and if the angle wont allow you to use your 1350 yoke buy a 1410 yoke. Be the last time to have to mess with it.

Ill try and find my chart for you that has all the specs on the 4 main joints ( op. angle, load cap., sizes etc)
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U-joint series Joint width (W) (inches) Cap diameter (D) (inches) Maximum Angle Continuous rating (lb-ft) Short Duration rating (lb-ft)
1310 3.219 1.062 30 130 800
1330 3.625 1.062 20 150 890
1350 3.625 1.188 20 210 1240
1410 4.188 1.188 37 250 1500


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http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...aft/index.html
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Offset joints vibrate bad at over 25 mph.
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If your sig is true and you are running 43's then why are even messing with 1310s?
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Because that's what I have I'll be upgrading shafts when I can get the new trans and T case in. (46Re and a flipped 300) until then I'm going to run what I have.
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