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Old December 17th, 2011, 12:54 AM   #241
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Old December 17th, 2011, 06:15 AM   #242
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You're iPhone will definitely let you post a photo. You should try using tapatalk. You can quickly upload right from your phone to the site. No need for photobucket, Flickr, etc.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 09:05 AM   #243
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Krista, does it look like this?

If it does it's the design of the carrier, not necessarily a defect, more cosmetic than anything. Mine looked that way from day 1 with my stock spare mounted to it. I don't like the design either, but you get what you pay for.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #244
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Yeah it looks like you have the outward lean also. Does yours rattle I think that lean causes stress and the rattle. Also I forgot about that forum app! I understand you get what you pay for but ironically I paid maybe 300 range more in middle for the bumper a year ago and I'm finding warn ones for same amount. Are they shit? I always thought warn was more around a LOD pricing.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 09:45 AM   #245
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Build one . Quit buying junk. It's time to learn to build stuff out of nothing.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 09:48 AM   #246
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Yeah it looks like you have the outward lean also. Does yours rattle I think that lean causes stress and the rattle. Also I forgot about that forum app! I understand you get what you pay for but ironically I paid maybe 300 range more in middle for the bumper a year ago and I'm finding warn ones for same amount. Are they shit? I always thought warn was more around a LOD pricing.
I have the same bumper you do now, mine rattles once in a while when I am really bouncing but other than that it has been a good bumper. I hope mine doesnt break
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Old December 17th, 2011, 09:52 AM   #247
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I don't notice much rattle now, but
My hardtop is on so it's hard to say. The only issue I've had with the carrier so far is that plastic rub block snapped in half. I got a new one sent under warranty no problem. A buddy of mine also made me one out of nylon and I'm having no issue with that. I've run 30 miles of trails around big rapids and seasonal roads around Harrison with that bumper/carrier without problem. I had it rhino lined fresh out of the box, that will take care of any rust issues. As for the open design, flush it with the garden hose when you wash it. I was actually very suprised at how heavy this thing is, the bumper itself should take some abuse, the jury is still out on the carrier. I am planning to mount my hi-lift to the lower horizontal bar and possibly fab up a cargo rack to sit above the spare. If that doesn't cause the pivot point to fail I don't think anything will. If it does fail I'll probably replace it with a truck spindle and hub.

I'm not sure about the quality of warn's stuff. IMO most of the smittybilt bashing comes from the fact that they are produced overseas.
I have their bumpers front and rear as well as their winch and have had zero problems.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 10:07 AM   #248
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Yeah I can't lift that bumper I had issues with just the carrier when. It was in apart and in two pieces . For now my boyfriends going to weld it up good and I'll keep using it. Once he teaches me to weld I want to make some of my own stuff. But I will say that I had my other one ( rear bumper) coated and it turned the color of rust and was chipping off the coating. I included photos of my boyfriend jeep also I believe it was asking a few pages back.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 10:56 AM   #249
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Your pictures don't seem to show up for some reason. Neither did the one that grnd93 posted... They show the thumbnail, but that's it.

http://shop.poisonspyder.com/TJ-LJ-R.../14-61-020.htm

Buy that. Quality costs. Honestly you will be hard pressed to find something of quality for under 600-700 these days.

I was actually astounded at the price of tire carriers when I got back into this shit a year ago. Thats part of the reason why my JK doesn't have a spare. $1200-1500 for a tire and carrier. No thanks. I could call a wrecker quite a few times for that price.
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Your pictures don't seem to show up for some reason. Neither did the one that grnd93 posted... They show the thumbnail, but that's it.

http://shop.poisonspyder.com/TJ-LJ-R.../14-61-020.htm

Buy that. Quality costs. Honestly you will be hard pressed to find something of quality for under 600-700 these days.

I was actually astounded at the price of tire carriers when I got back into this shit a year ago. Thats part of the reason why my JK doesn't have a spare. $1200-1500 for a tire and carrier. No thanks. I could call a wrecker quite a few times for that price.
Might be because I'm using tapatalk...

I'll admit I went the cheap route on my junk, but for the wheeling I do (when I wheel it should be ok). I have no issue fixing/reengineering something if it breaks either...gives me an excuse to buy more tools.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 11:42 AM   #251
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I would love American made products but they have to lower cost a bit for a regular worker with a house or family. I went wheeling with a bunch of JKs and they were mod to the Tee with Lod but they were all retired. If we are paying for quality ok? But are we paying more if it's made here too!? When do we get a break?
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Old December 17th, 2011, 11:47 AM   #252
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I would love American made products but they have to lower cost a bit for a regular worker with a house or family. I went wheeling with a bunch of JKs and they were mod to the Tee with Lod but they were all retired. If we are paying for quality ok? But are we paying more if it's made here too!? When do we get a break?


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Old December 17th, 2011, 12:12 PM   #253
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Look into JCR, They are a Michigan based company.
They are on the Forums here - Brimy311 or Monkeyevil
High quality, you break it they replace it warranty.
Their Stage 3 Bumper w/carrier isn't much more than the Smittybilt.
Save on shipping with a road trip to K-Zoo.

I have the Stage 3 front on my TJ and my son has one on his XJ.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 12:52 PM   #254
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Would you mind posting a photo of your jcr bumpers?
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Old December 17th, 2011, 12:55 PM   #255
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Would you mind posting a photo of your jcr bumpers?
before the tube fenders, I vote JCR they do an awesome job.



Link to their website and rear bumper
http://www.jcroffroad.com/Merchant2/...egory_Code=TJR
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Old December 17th, 2011, 01:12 PM   #256
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I would love American made products but they have to lower cost a bit for a regular worker with a house or family. I went wheeling with a bunch of JKs and they were mod to the Tee with Lod but they were all retired. If we are paying for quality ok? But are we paying more if it's made here too!? When do we get a break?
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Old December 17th, 2011, 01:19 PM   #257
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its not expensive you lazy fucks, DIY
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Old December 17th, 2011, 01:30 PM   #258
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I work two jobs and I can't afford Lod after bills if people want people to buy American make it affordable. I dont have 1000 for a bumper. Support American make it affordable. that's why people buy cheap shit because I need to run a spare and oh I only have maybe after bills a little money. As for DYI we are making this smitty bumper a krista built and re doing all the welds it should work perfect after that. oh and FYI Jeeperscreepers know where it's at they run sick deals. Btw if you can afford 800-1000 bumpers kudos. I know I can't.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 01:35 PM   #259
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Oh I am supporting my neighbors and maybe a few streets with all the money taken out of my checks :-)
Oh and the women in front of me in line with a bridge card buying a tooth brush that shoots water into the gums and teeth and is told her card doesn't have enough money so she opens her purse to 200 dollars in 100s and says well put the food back I want the cool toothbrush...

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Old December 17th, 2011, 01:40 PM   #260
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making your own is better in my opinion cause you get what you want and if it breaks well you know your a dumb ass for doing a shit job yourself.
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