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Old October 8th, 2006, 10:50 PM   #21
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They way you have it should be ok. If you are concerned about suspension movement, use an ADDITIONAL strap(s) to pull teh frame down onto the axles.

Straps are much less prone to loosening up compared with chains + binders. Those are better left for securing heavier equipment with less pliable tires or no give(like a bulldozer).

Its up to you regarding strapping the suspension. I never have, and have no issues Depends on your tow rig/trailer, your trail rig's suspension, and your level of driving ability.
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Old October 8th, 2006, 11:02 PM   #22
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i always go to the axles because:

1. the chain angle is flatter to the trailer due to the lower mounting point.
2. if chained to the frame, the suspension can compress taking the weight temporarily off of the tires, allowing them to slip side to side.
3. chaining to the frame also lets the vehicle move front to back when the suspension is compressed and the lenght needed becomes shorter.
4. the above mentioned issue with the straps being able to actually fall off.
5. tow trucks always go to the axles with hooks. and they do it all day long.

you should always have some measure of keeping the binders from coming open. either wrapping the extra chain around the binder a few times, wrapping bailing wire around it, zip-tie's, ratchet straps or even using duct tape it thats all you have.

i also always put an extra chain or strap to the frame as well, with no pressure on it, because it is required by law for tow trucks to do this, so i figure it cant hurt.
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Old October 9th, 2006, 07:04 AM   #23
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I went to the mounds like this, about an hour drive, and it worked very well. I would like to add some weld on mounts to the back of the trailer and possibly the front to reduce the angle of the cross over, but was very happy with how it held. I was towing with a 4.7L dakota and was overall impressed with that. It worked quite well.

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Old October 9th, 2006, 09:42 AM   #24
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i have found when strapping to the axles it is alot less stress on the trailer and truck, it seems when i would strap the suspension down it would make the trailer and truck bounce and sway more
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Old October 9th, 2006, 11:47 AM   #25
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i have found when strapping to the axles it is alot less stress on the trailer and truck, it seems when i would strap the suspension down it would make the trailer and truck bounce and sway more
I did not have any issue with the suspension on the YJ. It was obviously moving, but the axles & tires were staying still on the trailer.
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Old October 9th, 2006, 12:25 PM   #26
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i have found when strapping to the axles it is alot less stress on the trailer and truck, it seems when i would strap the suspension down it would make the trailer and truck bounce and sway more
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hey Hosejockey, you ever have a strap break on you while trailering?
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Old October 9th, 2006, 05:34 PM   #27
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hey Hosejockey, you ever have a strap break on you while trailering?


thanks for the reminder luckily there were two on there at the time
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Old October 13th, 2006, 01:52 PM   #28
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I brought this issue up a long time ago on here and it went back and forth with the different methods and the way that each person does it. I decided that I would try to strap, not chain, to the axles with the same straps that you have. I do not even cross them up on the trailer, but I do on the truck, due to amount of room on the deck. I chose this method because it was what most people were using and it is what all of the tow truck guys use. I have never had a problem nor has it moved or loosened a strap. I do think that it depends on the type of vehicle and trailer you have. I personally would not want to ratchet my suspension down to the point that it would not un-load a strap. Not only would it overload the jeep suspension but I think it also would jar the trailer suspension too much. It would hit harder because the suspension on the jeep would not be able to take some of the load. I guess just try what you think would work the best for you.
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Old October 19th, 2006, 09:23 PM   #29
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Not only would it overload the jeep suspension but I think it also would jar the trailer suspension too much. It would hit harder because the suspension on the jeep would not be able to take some of the load. I guess just try what you think would work the best for you.
x2, I've always run to the axles, takes the load off of the actual Jeep. Straping the frame down would be like driving on the road with no springs, it doesn't feel good to you or to your vehicle.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 08:44 AM   #30
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YOU CAN CUT YOUR STRAPS WITH THAT FRONT PICE OF ANGLE IRON !!! I USE A OLD SWEATSHURT ON THE CORNER

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Old October 20th, 2006, 10:18 AM   #31
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Another thing you can put on that front corner is a piece of garden hose or fire hose if you have access to it. Also, when possible i strap to the axles, if the body can move freely, it puts less strain on the straps... I will note that when i tow my car it is done to the upper suspension which does compress it.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #32
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I've always gone to the frame with straps running to the corners of the trailer at approx 45 degree angles- going on 25 years now, and never lost/loosened or broke a strap. In the enclosed trailer I have to, because the Jeep will end up hitting the ceiling, but I have also found that the TJ ends up moving too much when trailered, and actually induces sway when bound by the axles. I have never worn out a spring from binding the suspension, but I would imagine you would use up the springs quicker by making them flex the whole ride on the trailer. The trailer is designed to carry its rated load, and the suspension is setup for 10K/7K/etc without needing the load to do part of the work to suspend itself.

I personally like the idea of a single supension taking care of the road instead of two seperate setups working independantly, possibly inducing a situation where both suspensions top out at the same time, not to mention the sway and lean issues a coil sprung rig can have when topped out on the its suspension. (Think Jack in The Box)
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