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Old December 23rd, 2010, 08:58 PM   #21
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It looks like a car trans. i know that the 6 and 3 rib bus trans are suppose to be stronger but you would have to do a lot of things to make it fit. i just bought a berrian chassis with a 1641 VW engine that is a ton of fun haven't had it in the dunes yet but went trail riding a couple times it was a blast.
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Old December 23rd, 2010, 10:55 PM   #22
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oh ok im gonna use a type 002 that i had on my rail for my baja project but i was told im gonna have to do some fabrication to make it fit
3rib or 5rib...both of which are considered 002 trans...they are not that hard to set up in a car


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Thanks for the info guys! heres pics of the trans...
std trans with an hd side cover. if you dont drive like an asshole it will hold up just fine...start getting heavy with that clutch and you wont like the outcome

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It looks like a car trans. i know that the 6 and 3 rib bus trans are suppose to be stronger but you would have to do a lot of things to make it fit. i just bought a berrian chassis with a 1641 VW engine that is a ton of fun haven't had it in the dunes yet but went trail riding a couple times it was a blast.
the biggest thing to use a bus trans is the cv flanges...most people convert to 930 cv's and call it a day
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Old December 24th, 2010, 05:48 AM   #23
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that trans is std type 1 pre 1969...1969 and up are IRS. And no you cannot build them to be strong. You can get them to handle a little bit of power, but you have to be careful or it WILL blow.. Out of all the type 1, the swing axle is stronger than the IRS, but both are the big weak link using that style of trans. I'm not sure how you can see a heavy duty side plate because I cant see one from the pics. the side plate is what holds the ring carrier in place. I've never hard of this rhino case the one guy is claiming. I will tell you there was NEVER a "rhino" case transaxle that came from VW
How is it a swing axle is stronger than an IRS? IRS has a 8 bolt ring gear instead of 6. They have stronger ring and pinion gears, and they have corse teeth on the gear stack, and better syncros. You can build a type 1 to handle a lot of power, It just costs money. the side cover on that trans is on the wrong side for a mid engine. it needs to be on the ring gear side to help the carrier from deflecting down It would be hard to put an 002 or 091 trans in a mid. you cant flip the ring gears like you can on a type 1 trans. you would have to run it upside down and there would be no way to oil it. Not saying it cant be done but hard.
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Old December 24th, 2010, 02:13 PM   #24
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How is it a swing axle is stronger than an IRS? IRS has a 8 bolt ring gear instead of 6. They have stronger ring and pinion gears, and they have corse teeth on the gear stack, and better syncros. You can build a type 1 to handle a lot of power, It just costs money. the side cover on that trans is on the wrong side for a mid engine. it needs to be on the ring gear side to help the carrier from deflecting down It would be hard to put an 002 or 091 trans in a mid. you cant flip the ring gears like you can on a type 1 trans. you would have to run it upside down and there would be no way to oil it. Not saying it cant be done but hard.
without getting into a huge debate...run a stock type 1 IRS against a stock type 1 swing axle with the same motor setups and the swing axle will take more abuse...this has been beaten to death for years. At the end of the day you are dealing with a type 1 trans, which is nothing more than a turd. I dont care how much money you dump into that thing it will always be the weak link. It's just like the 44 vs 60 argument.
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Old December 26th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #25
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Thanks for all the info! updates.....got the top deck striped down cleaned up and mostly back togeather....the 4 into1 was striped off all the powercoat because it looked like shit all purple... headers had to be fixed up also.....enjoy!


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Old December 27th, 2010, 06:51 AM   #26
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You ned to get those 16.50 off there. They will destroy any transmission in a buggy. Get a set of 13.00s or a set of 1300 comp cut tires.
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Old December 27th, 2010, 07:08 AM   #27
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I would dump the corvair engine When your buggyin say up north I would say 90 percent have extra parts when you break and you will!! corvair parts are just not laying around everywhere like VW in the buggy world
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Old December 27th, 2010, 11:02 AM   #28
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yaaa those tires are massive! im workin on getting a new set that dosent put so much stress on everything....the engine is gonna stay for now...parts are not to hard to find...theirs even a covair shop right up the street from me but thats the fun of the project. Thanks for the comments!
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Old December 27th, 2010, 11:49 AM   #29
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looks cool, i dont know squat about sand rails, if it was me i just drive it, fix it if it breaks later.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 09:20 PM   #30
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That there rail was once owned by me from calli!!! Wow still has same accel coil/Koni front shocks/monroe rears/ even last paint job looks to be same minus paint on arms and rest of what was chrome. Looks killer now with disc brakes/new paddles and cleanup! Hopefully motor is still set up right.... It lopes well with the big cam. 13 was small of a tire and just was not hooking right but once it grabbed it flew. Even beat sum v8's. Tranny was also done pretty tuff(hard parts sum saver, as I pulled 16 but with half cut rib around and still spun them easy. Only thing was the belt always flies off cause of the higher than stock revving. A gator back would last the weekend(lol). It was built for glamis! I then put on eBay years ago and sold to someone in Michigan. Now you have it... Wow looks killer!


Ps-if still same paint, I have sum laying around still...hehe
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