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Old October 17th, 2006, 04:41 PM   #1
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200610160007

O'Reilly falsely claimed that a pregnant woman's life could "never" be "in danger" from pregnancy complication

Summary: On his radio show, Bill O'Reilly falsely claimed that it "is never the case" that a "mother's life is in danger" during pregnancy because "you can always have a C-section and do those kinds of things." In fact, several potential pregnancy complications, such as an ectopic pregnancy, which is "the leading cause of pregnancy-related deaths in the first trimester" or preeclampsia, which "affect[s] up to one in seven pregnant women" can threaten the life of a pregnant woman.

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Weird, Bill O'Reilly seems to think he's an expert on everything, even when he knows nothing about the subject.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 05:26 PM   #2
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first let me say i am pro choice so i am not sideing with oreily. but i think he meant its never the case you KNOWan abortion will save the mothers life, or you know 100 % she will die. Can a woman die from an abortion ? I seriously dont know. I do know but you can pretty much die in any suregery there is a 1 in a 10,000 or so chance you will die if you go under anestesia etc. I took it as meaning you cant KNOW untill its too late. if you could have had the kid and everything would be fine. I would like to hear him explain his answer better before labeling him a total moron. Anyone who talks all day is bound to make some mistakes, mis-speak, or over simplyfy.


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Yea, no shit. Getting advice like that from O'reiley is like getting spellin advice from fram boy. Speaking of which where has he been lately I haven't seen any poorly spelled comments by him lately.
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Old October 17th, 2006, 05:43 PM   #4
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first let me say i am pro choice so i am not sideing with oreily. but i think he meant its never the case you KNOWan abortion will save the mothers life, or you know 100 % she will die. Can a woman die from an abortion ? I seriously dont know. I do know but you can pretty much die in any suregery there is a 1 in a 10,000 or so chance you will die if you go under anestesia etc. I took it as meaning you cant KNOW untill its too late. if you could have had the kid and everything would be fine. I would like to hear him explain his answer better before labeling him a total moron. Anyone who talks all day is bound to make some mistakes, mis-speak, or over simplyfy.


I dont seek out medical advise from professional TV folks. Thats just me.

I'm going to disagree with you on that, listen to the exact quote :

"Forty-five percent of Americans, according to a new CNN poll -- 45 percent say all abortions should be outlawed unless the mother's going to die -- or catastrophic health consequences, which again, is never the case -- never."
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So O'Reilly's a self-important blowhard. No news there.

I'm a pro-choice kinda guy personally. I don't like abortion, but it's a better option than unwanted children being born for me to pay for and be neglected or abused by their parents so I can again pay for them as adolescent and adult felons.

What many people like myself don't like about the abortion law is the BS way it was enacted - i.e. lawmaking by the judicial branch, just like many other liberal-driven "pseudo-legislation". If it's a good law, use the process or put it up for a popular vote. This back-dooring of unpopular laws through the Supreme Court is wrong and must stop.
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First, let me say that I don't give a crap what Bill Oreily thinks or says about anything.

Second, I consider myself both "pro-choice" and "pro-life", meaning that I think everone should have choices, but I think abortion is a bad choice.

It sound like both sides need to get an education. It's a little rediculess to bring up ectopic pregnancies since according to what I read "A classical ectopic pregnancy never develops into a live birth" (http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/pre...y/ectopic.html) So, although technically it may be considered an "abortion" I don't really consider it one since carring it full term and delivering is not an option.

As for the other problems I think those need to be decided between the doctor and patient. I would say that it's rarely a matter of killing the baby to save the mother, because if the mother dies the baby chance for survival are practically nil.
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I agree...also most ectopic pregnancys are not treated like an abortion. It usually requires removal of either the tube or the ovary or both....depending on where it is.
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O'Reilly falsely claimed that a pregnant woman's life could "never" be "in danger" from pregnancy complication
If he really said that and nothing was taken out of context then yes, that was really dumb.

I am generally against abortion. It ends human life without trial or conviction. I'm not fanatical about it though. You won't find me bombing abortion mills or holding up pictures of aborted fetuses. I know people who have had them and I still talk to them.

I am adopted and was born from sexual assault, not love. Rape is not justification for terminating any human life except that of the rapist. My ex wife had preeclampsya and it was treated and our son was born three weeks early but otherwise healthy.

There is one exception to this is the rule of self defense. I feel quite strongly that a woman has the right to defend her life against anything that may kill her, including a untreatably "bad" pregnancy that nature wouldn't miscarry.

Bill-O just likes to stir the pot. I really doubt he's personally as right wing as those who hate him make him out to be. I think he just spews whatever will upset people.
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Old October 18th, 2006, 08:46 AM   #9
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yay, Billo recieved an honorary award for it!

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I'm going to disagree with you on that, listen to the exact quote :

"Forty-five percent of Americans, according to a new CNN poll -- 45 percent say all abortions should be outlawed unless the mother's going to die -- or catastrophic health consequences, which again, is never the case -- never."
Well, CNN polls are not scientific. So I don't see how anything that comes out of a CNN poll is fact. Preeclampsia IS a life threatening situations, and woman have died from this condition. I have a friend who had it, and had to have an emergency C-section that she was dead set against in order to save her life. A tubular pregnancy is also life threatening. When the fetus grows too big in the tube, it will burst the tube. This too is a life threatening situation. I'm not an OB/GYN so I don't know all the situations that can cause death, but these two can be life threatening to the mother.
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Well, CNN polls are not scientific. So I don't see how anything that comes out of a CNN poll is fact. Preeclampsia IS a life threatening situations, and woman have died from this condition. I have a friend who had it, and had to have an emergency C-section that she was dead set against in order to save her life. A tubular pregnancy is also life threatening. When the fetus grows too big in the tube, it will burst the tube. This too is a life threatening situation. I'm not an OB/GYN so I don't know all the situations that can cause death, but these two can be life threatening to the mother.
the cnn poll in the quote is irrelevant, it's when bill says "never the case" that i was talking about.
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Weird, Bill O'Reilly seems to think he's an expert on everything, even when he knows nothing about the subject.
Seems this could be said of many folks.. in fact...

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Seems this could be said of many folks.. in fact...
couldn't be farther from the truth. show me where i've said i'm right, you're wrong. I know everything.
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couldn't be farther from the truth. show me where i've said i'm right, you're wrong. I know everything.
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