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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:28 AM   #1
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Question Best 5th wheel or gooseneck hitch and why?

Would prefer more "why". Quality or features that others don't have, better platform design, better mounting, etc.

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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:59 AM   #2
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b&w hidden ball hitch is what 84scrambler and i have.

they work real nice, allow the bed to be smooth for hauling wood and such.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 05:03 PM   #3
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b&w hidden ball hitch is what 84scrambler and i have.

they work real nice, allow the bed to be smooth for hauling wood and such.
he said Fithwheel not gooseneck..

oh though B&W does have their companion fithwheel setup im curious to see reviews on
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b&w hidden ball hitch is what 84scrambler and i have.

they work real nice, allow the bed to be smooth for hauling wood and such.
So you just have this with the ball sticking out?





I thought this is what went on top of that, which is still removable in order to have a flat bed bottom:





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he said Fithwheel not gooseneck..

oh though B&W does have their companion fithwheel setup im curious to see reviews on
I used to use the terms "gooseneck" and "fifth wheel" interchangeably. I see now that they are two different configurations. I don't have any kind of trailer yet. This is all just research. I edited the title.

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Old November 21st, 2011, 05:17 PM   #5
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Ken is right. I have both the B&W turnover ball gooseneck hitch and the companion fifth wheel. I would not choose anything else. I simply pull the slide pin under the wheel well, pull the gooseneck ball, turn it over, and you have complete use of the bed with no rails, and it takes all of 30 seconds. The companion 5th wheel is great. I can put it in or take it out in about 5 minutes. I have no experience with anything else, but I have no reason to go with any other hitch. It all mounts from underneath and is extremely well built.

PP - Let me know if you want to look at the hitch setup sometime.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 05:45 PM   #6
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If you have a shortbed truck I would highly suggest a 5th wheel hitch that can easily slide back to take tight corners. The one I have you pull a lever out and forward on the hitch and hold the trailer brakes while you slowly pull forward and the hitch will slide back and lock. You do the opposite and it goes back to the original position. It makes fuel stops and getting it backed into tight places a breeze. I will check mine out tomorrow and find put what kind it is. It is the best one I have ever used.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:06 PM   #7
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If you have a shortbed truck I would highly suggest a 5th wheel hitch that can easily slide back to take tight corners. The one I have you pull a lever out and forward on the hitch and hold the trailer brakes while you slowly pull forward and the hitch will slide back and lock. You do the opposite and it goes back to the original position. It makes fuel stops and getting it backed into tight places a breeze. I will check mine out tomorrow and find put what kind it is. It is the best one I have ever used.
Have a longbed.

The Companion posted has a 4" range.
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 09:50 AM   #8
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Okay, so who can recommend a place who will give me a good installed price on the bottom half?
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 10:01 AM   #9
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So you just have this with the ball sticking out?




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I have this thingy, but my ball doesn't "turnover" it just drops straight down.

Works great. I think if I were shopping them myself I wouldn't go any other route either.

Feel free to drive 2 miles and come take a look any time. I owe you a strongbow anyway.
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Feel free to drive 2 miles and come take a look any time. I owe you a strongbow anyway.
Its a little farther than that now that I'm back to work, but I'll keep that in mind for when I make a run back to the house. I went back to the east side to the same place I was at before I left.
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Mark, Jim(fittergirl's husband) and I put one in his Dodge in like 2 hours, and IIRC that included beer time. Nice, simple install. He has the B&W one like above. I think the longest part was making sure we drilled the hole at the right spot. We also put his one in his old Ford.

That white Dodge I bought from you has the rail set up in it, I have never had a problem with the rails getting in the way, just they get rocks and dirt in them if you use your truck bed for that kinda stuff.

You get a new truck or is this for the black Dodge?
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Okay, so who can recommend a place who will give me a good installed price on the bottom half?
call Ironman Offroad. I believe he also sells them and can certainly instal them.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #14
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You get a new truck or is this for the black Dodge?
Just doing some planning, that's all. I think I'm going to sell my Range and I haven't decided if I will go with a new one or not.
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I see a lot of you guys like the B&W set up but is there aything wrong wit the rail type sytems where you can run both the goose and 5th set up ?
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The main drawback for me is that with a rail system the rails stay in the bed, making it harder to load heavy stuff. With the turnover ball you can still get a flat bed in about a minute.
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My vote is still for B&W but has anyone heard anything else about this issue ?
and apparently after they added more hardware
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My vote is still for B&W but has anyone heard anything else about this issue ?
B&W Turnover Ball Movement - YouTube
and apparently after they added more hardware
B&W Hitch Movement 2 - YouTube
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Old December 16th, 2011, 04:50 PM   #19
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I don't see the problem? Frame flex and bed movement under load is normal. The b&w Bitches are not attached to the bed in any way and the ball in its mount has less play than a regular hitch in a reciever. You might want to watch for cracks in the collar around the ball but if that movement makes you panic sell your truck and buy a microbus.

Personally I think a 5th wheel hitch pulles better than a gooseneck. Most gooseneck trailers are set up to have a kingpin that can be slid in place of the ball reciever. Just make sure the 5th whgrl hitch is rated according to your trailer. I had a bad case of a 16k reece sliding 5th wheel hitch sliding while in motion. But the hitch was way over loaded.
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I don't see the problem? Frame flex and bed movement under load is normal. The b&w Bitches are not attached to the bed in any way and the ball in its mount has less play than a regular hitch in a reciever. You might want to watch for cracks in the collar around the ball but if that movement makes you panic sell your truck and buy a microbus.

Personally I think a 5th wheel hitch pulles better than a gooseneck. Most gooseneck trailers are set up to have a kingpin that can be slid in place of the ball reciever. Just make sure the 5th whgrl hitch is rated according to your trailer. I had a bad case of a 16k reece sliding 5th wheel hitch sliding while in motion. But the hitch was way over loaded.
Just makin sure I dont know a lot about Gn's yet..
as for 5th wheels.. I agree they do seem like they would pull better im just concerned about if i ever have to pull into an uneven area and articulation limitations on the 5th wheel setups
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