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Old August 19th, 2011, 03:55 PM   #21
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you are going to run your air bags on the links?
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Old August 19th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #22
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Old August 19th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #23
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3 questions.

Do you know how to weld?

Have you built anything yet?

With all the CAD work and crazy calculations you have done so far, why the fukc are you an OTR driver and not an automotive engineer somewhere?????
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 10:43 AM   #24
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Yes, I know how to weld. But, it has been 10 years so I got a 211 to so it would be easier to relearn and work on this.

No, I have not built anything to this degree mostly just restoring and body work. I have welded up some suspensions and fixed some frames and such but this will me my first on a lot of levels. I have always wanted to build a jeep from the ground up but never had the time or the cash.

CAD, modeling, Animation, has always have been a hobby. I am using Sutdiomax because it will allow me to add all the components(not just the frame) see how they all work together, see how they will flex and slide so I can fix things before I build them and find that the drive shaft will rub the suspension arm's drive shaft guard at... a angle or something.

I am a truck driver because I save almost $1500 a month by staying out here not having a car, house, insurance, fuel cost etc to pay for this way. That and I got sick of being told I was not qualified(when applying due to not having a degree despite years of experience) or working jobs that I could end up dead or handed a pink slip the next day. Driving relaxes me, always has even when I was getting 8mph it relaxed me, that's why I drive.

I am saving up for a house while I try and build this which is part of why I don't mind staying out so much. It is not a smart financial move dropping what I estimate will end up around 15k into this(not counting the 4k in tools now). But I DGAF I have always wanted to do it and I am.

I signed up for a new contract that they say is susposto run a year(it pays really well) the beginning of this month. Like a week before he beginning of this month I had 5 days completely off planned and have everything except the steel there(the bender,notcher,welder, etc). It is enough time to do most of the fish plating, install the uprights, and prep the axles but 4 days before I was going to head home they tossed me this contract and started the 1st. It would not be much progress but it would be enough to show everyone on here I was not just talking BS. Despite wanting to tear this down to the frame grind and fish plating the (non rotted) frame to avoid flexing I could not realistically turn down the offer.

I am currently fixing the huge FU in the uprights and have (re re re) drawn up how all the panels and glass will need to slide to be removed while not interfering with the inner cage which is still being reworked.

It is a lot of design, check, design, check. But it is all in a effort to reduce the use of a BFH to remove and rebuild.
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 11:05 AM   #25
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you are going to run your air bags on the links?
Yes, the air bags are going to run on top of the links. Yes, it will be very tight on the PS. It will cause a lot of stress to both the frame, heims, and the links. So all those are being beefed like crazy with the cage being welded into the frame to further strengthen the jeep. The 1.25" Heim's will be the weak link if anything does break.

The benefit is the amount of control and flex I will have to drop the suspension so the wheels are grabbing while keeping the bags in the safest spot I can put them. Also the fact that by having the bags on the links I can extend the axles out or in easily by switching out the links with ones of different lengths if I want to at a later time instead of redesigning the entire suspension. They have a internal leveling sensor and have been out for over 10 years with lots of testing and abuse.
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 11:07 AM   #26
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Fixed the Middle upright adjusting the angles a bit.
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Old September 14th, 2011, 10:27 AM   #27
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Old September 14th, 2011, 10:41 AM   #28
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You only have 1? I have about 70.
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 03:48 PM   #29
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After much suggestions and helpful comments this has taken a new direction more towards a buggy. Inspired by TF and other designs. I have dropped the full cab and went to a hatch back design. It is lighter, stronger, lower and more stable. It uses coil overs instead of the crazy hydro/air combo. I need to work with auto desk inventor once I get back to the house around thanksgiving plugging in the numbers and seeing about issues with clearance and figuring out the spring rates for the coil overs. I have a lot of it figured out "close". But, it sure would help to have all the geometry figured out a few times over. I should have every bolt and weld planned and checked over by February and be able to start welding and playing with this by March hope fully.

Here is a sneak peak of the rough design.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 10:54 AM   #30
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Will this be nickel plated too?
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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:06 PM   #31
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What happened to this?
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Old November 8th, 2012, 02:00 PM   #32
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It melted.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 08:58 AM   #33
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It did not melt I decided it would be better to just build a dang buggy then to cut the cj all to heck. Stock cj is just sitting for later like the other 60's 4x4 I have.

The buggy build is slowly progressing as I get time off here and there to work on it.

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