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Old September 6th, 2011, 05:42 PM   #1
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Well i just sold my trailer and am looking at buying a new smaller/lighter trailer to haul my jeep on. Was just wondering what type of trailer would be lighter. A wood deck or a steel diamond plate deck? What about the open center type car haulers. How much lighter are those compared to a regular trailer? Looking for something light weight but strong enough to hold my grand cherokee that i can tow behind my 1/2 ton ram. Any input would be great.

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Old September 6th, 2011, 06:03 PM   #2
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I've had both open center and full deck trailers, but i prefer the full deck, because i would find myself using the trailer for other things besides towing a rig, like moving furniture, a hot tub, building supplies, etc. Much easier to do that stuff with a full deck trailer.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 06:05 PM   #3
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Do you remember if the open center trailer was lighter and easier to tow than the full deck trailer? The trailer would mainly be used for towing the jeep. Don't really haul anything else around.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 08:16 PM   #4
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I don't think you will find much difference in weight. When shopping I found different manufacturers were different weights for similar sized trailers. So, my suggestion is IF YOUR MAIN PRIORITY IS WEIGHT, call each dealer.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 08:42 PM   #5
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I wish my trailer had a full deck, be nice to put a jack under a vehicle while still on trailer.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 08:47 PM   #6
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cost is high, but you could get an alluminum framed trailer and open deck. You see the race car haulers like that. They are pricy but significantly lighter.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 10:03 PM   #7
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I honestly dont think you will see a difference when loaded.....the weight is not the killer its the wind resistance.....I pulled my fold up ramps off and gained 4mpg towing this...went from 14 mpg to 18 mpg over a 1k stretch.....the ramps have been strapped to the trailer every trip since
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cost is high, but you could get an alluminum framed trailer and open deck. You see the race car haulers like that. They are pricy but significantly lighter.
Nope, not true. When I bought my trailer this spring, the price to go from a steel trailer to an aluminum trailer was over $3000 difference. Weight savings? 400 pounds.

I agree, it's the wind resistance. When pulling my enclosed trailer empty, I got worse mileage than pulling my flatbed with the jeep on it.
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For a lower trailer, full deck. For a taller deck over like my gooseneck car hauler, open deck. It is awesome to be able to put the Jeep or car up on the car hauler and be able to get around underneath it. After the mounds, you can get under the Jeep with the power washer, etc...
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As I'm going through an axle replacement right now here's what I've learned.
Here's my 10 rules in no particular order:

1. Know the load you're going to carry.
2. Know the rating of the trailer NOT including the trailer.
3. Get a full deck if you ever want to use it for other things beside hauling your Cherokee around.
4. Don't go less that a 30% safety factor relative to your load.
5. Don't go with a box frame style, go with open 'C' channel as rust in Michigan will destroy a trailer in 6 or 7 years. Aluminum trailers simply not worth it and difficult to repair if they crack.
6. Get the trailer rust proofed if you intend on keeping it.
7. Get good lights, LED preferably as voltage is less and they don't fail from shock loads like regular incandescent do.
8. Get brakes on both axles if the load warrants it.
9. Don't get as beaver tail as I have yet to see where they don't drag in and out of driveways and it's not like we need gentle approach angles to get our vehicles loaded which is what a beaver tail is for.
10. Stow your ramps, don't make them hinge at the rear. There are many times you need to hang something off where the ramps get in the way when they are folded up. Plus there's the wind resistance issues just discussed.

I throw a picture of mine up tonight.

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I pulled my fold up ramps off and gained 4mpg towing this...went from 14 mpg to 18 mpg over a 1k stretch.....the ramps have been strapped to the trailer every trip since
The fold up ramps made that big of a difference?

Hmmm...guess I should give it a try. I honestly didn't think it would be that much. But then again your car on there is pretty low profile. I think the jeep on mine creates more drag than the ramps.
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The fold up ramps made that big of a difference?

Hmmm...guess I should give it a try. I honestly didn't think it would be that much. But then again your car on there is pretty low profile. I think the jeep on mine creates more drag than the ramps.

I had to confirm it myself a while back.... ran out to PA to pick up an Equinox and had better MPG coming back loaded....the roof line was about even with my ramps(5ft ramps),I had it loaded about a ft in front of the ramps because I had 2 motorcycles on the front of the trailer I ended up grabbing.....IIRC I pulled 15mpg on the way out empty and 17 on the way back....only thing I can say is try it....it took a few trips before I believed it...the only downfall is lugging the ramps around and strapping them down(or build a set of slide in ramps).

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Old September 12th, 2011, 09:40 PM   #13
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something people haven't mentioned is get your Jeep weighed before you buy something, think about what you're going to do to your Jeep while you own it. If you currently have D30/35 w/35's and plan to goto D60's and 40's it's gonna add a lot of weight. Most typicall car haulers have 3500lb axles, so 7000 lb max weight including the trailer weight which is normally 2000 lbs +, so that trailer can only handle a 5000 lb rig. For that reason the last trailer I bought I got a 10k rated trailer, it's heavy empty, but when I throw my 5200lb jeep on, couple hundred pounds of spare parts, kids toys, 1/2cord of firewood, etc I know I'm still under the weight rating.

check out BNM Trailers in Elsie, MI. They make the trailers themselves, ie Made in MICHIGAN! Super great people to work with, their standard 10k trailer was 82" inside of wheel wells, but my Jeep is 83", they ordered axles and fenders to give me 84" no extra cost, about 5 weeks later I had the perfect trailer for me.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #14
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I think he just sold his 10k rated trailer though.
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Old September 14th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #15
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BNM Trailers in Elsie, MI... ...Made in MICHIGAN!... ...their standard 10k trailer was 82" inside of wheel wells, but my Jeep is 83", they ordered axles and fenders to give me 84" no extra cost


Sounds like a good place to check out.
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