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Old August 15th, 2011, 08:10 PM   #1
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Trying to figure out why I have a trailer tire going bald.

I have no more than 5000 miles on my flatbed trailer and the left front tire is wearing bad on a band about 2" wide on the outside. The rest of the tires have good tread and so does this tire on the rest of the tire but the outside band is bald. The other tires have some cupping but not anything significant. Any ideas?

What I know;
tires are all at pressure. (50 psi)
trailer sits level
tires don't get hot
bearings don't get hot
Trailer doesn't sway
C rated tires
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Old August 15th, 2011, 08:14 PM   #2
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Are these Bias Ply or radial tires....I had a problem like that and it went away with a set of radial tires...
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Could be a bad inner bearing or a bad alignment. The cupping makes me want to say alignment, but it could be a bet axle too.
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Bias.

I would expect the wheel bearings to be hot if I had a bad bearing. I would also expect that if it were bad axle alignment that the other side would have a problem on the inside. Plus it's pretty hard to get misalignment with tandem axles.
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Chinese trailer tires are all POSes?
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Old August 15th, 2011, 08:47 PM   #6
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chinese trailer tires are all poses?

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Old August 15th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #7
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Good point. I was just looking at them, they're all wearing pretty bad. Probably be lucky to get home.
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old man probably hit a curb.
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Well if you get home without a blowout...I got my radial trailer tires at Leslie Tire on M59 across from the M-TECH rental place. He had a good price and I have been real happy with the tires.
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did you maybe bend your axle.. sounds like you have a camber problem; at least thats how I interpreted your situation
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Well if you get home without a blowout...I got my radial trailer tires at Leslie Tire on M59 across from the M-TECH rental place. He had a good price and I have been real happy with the tires.
Thanks Bryan. I'll check it out.

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did you maybe bend your axle.. sounds like you have a camber problem; at least thats how I interpreted your situation
Doubt it. Once again, if it were out of alignment, I would expect the tire or bearings to be running hotter than the others. I check them every time I stop and everything seems symmetrical.
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Doubt it. Once again, if it were out of alignment, I would expect the tire or bearings to be running hotter than the others. I check them every time I stop and everything seems symmetrical.

I bought 5 new tires and wheels a little over a year ago, two of them have gone out of shape so bad that the outside edge of the tire circumference is almost an inch more then the inside. I'll take a picture if I remember.

A third one blew out on the way to Attica this spring.

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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:51 AM   #14
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hosejockey and I have had good luck with trailer tires from Dewey's in Fenton Jim. I got 4 for the boat trailer a few years back for a very good price. I believe goodyear radials of some sort. If you are shopping around talk with Jerry at Dewey's. GREAT service.
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did you maybe bend your axle.. sounds like you have a camber problem; at least thats how I interpreted your situation
I was thinking the same thing,but the tire would be bald on the inside if it was bent from over loading the trailer.I guess you could hit a stump ,or something ,to bend it in a way tyat the outside would wear first.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 10:39 AM   #16
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The tire that you replaced on the way out to Moab was on the same side, correct? Is the new tire wearing the same?

Wonder if the replacement tire is different and causing more load on the front tire?
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Had the same problem with my #3500 axles and you know our discussion over it. Are your axles cambered? My are. I talked to the guys @ Richfield about it. If you don't load your axles up to the max capacity, non-cambered axles would be a better choice.
I run Marathon Trailer tires. Load range 'C' and NO WHERE near the load rating they need to be to be hauling the Jeep and the trailer combined weight. Cupping on the outside is a sure sign of underinflation and uncontrolled tire/rim movement. Same as worn out shocks show on cars. Sure, it might not be way over, but it's right at it's capacity. Same with the crappy 1" outer bearings that #3500 axles have.
I'm already pricing out my new axles, going with #6000 and leafs, not torsion flex like they tried to talk me into. And NON-cambered.
Again, #3500 axles do NOT belong towing anything more than lawnmowers in my opinion. Been there done that, and it cost me plenty to learn that hard lesson.
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Side note while on the topic of tires.
I need tires for my 22' enclosed. Currently 205/65/15 C rated trailer-only radials.
Why would I not want E rated? What is trailer-rated in comparison to passenger tires?
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Jeep weighs around 4600#
Trailer titles at 1460#
Add tool box and crap inside and I would guess the axles are fairly close to maxed out. It's dark out, I'll check for camber in the morning. I can say that when observing it on flat pavement that the tires looked square to the ground. I never had these issues with my former tandem 3500# axles.
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Jeep weighs around 4600#
Trailer titles at 1460#
Add tool box and crap inside and I would guess the axles are fairly close to maxed out. It's dark out, I'll check for camber in the morning. I can say that when observing it on flat pavement that the tires looked square to the ground. I never had these issues with my former tandem 3500# axles.
My camber looked ok also but the resultant load placed on the bearing (outer)was what I believe is failing the bearings, plus the near maxed out load.
If you saw how small that outer bearing was you'd shit! Especially you who deals with bearings all day long in your conveyors.

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Side note while on the topic of tires.
I need tires for my 22' enclosed. Currently 205/65/15 C rated trailer-only radials.
Why would I not want E rated? What is trailer-rated in comparison to passenger tires?
You WOULD want D or E at least. 'C' rated tires are simple not up to the job unless you towing nearly empty trailers all the time.
What's your axle rating? How much do you haul weight wise? Enclosed are already probably near #2500.

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