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Old August 9th, 2011, 05:35 PM   #1
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I recently bought a 99 wj and it has a couple of issues such as a death wobble when I slow down from 55 mph I've checked ball joints tie rods and I guess you'd call it the panhard bar there all tight I'm kind of lost on that one and it needs tires I was thinking if I'm going to need to replace some front suspension parts and tires I mine as well do a 2" coil spacer my question on that would be what size tire could I run at that point this truck is not a wheeler it is strictly a dd I just can't leave anything alone and these trucks look great with a small lift any advice would be great thank you.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 11:17 PM   #2
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First and foremost you need a period or two in your post, that was rough. Secondly, a lot of things will cause death wobble. You already know you need tires, so replace those first. If everything is still tight and you're still getting DW, I would then get it aligned properly and replace the steering dampner, that is if you're sure the front end is tight. Try having someone move the steering wheel back and forth while you're under it looking at all the joints also. Good luck
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Old August 9th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #3
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respectfully, I wouldn't replace the steering dampner until the death wobble is gone. it could mask a problem.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 11:55 PM   #4
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respectfully, I wouldn't replace the steering dampner until the death wobble is gone. it could mask a problem.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 07:57 AM   #5
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Ok it dosen't need tires there just getting down close to the wear bars. Im glad you guys said something because the stabilizer was going to be the first thing I replaced I noticed last night that the rotors have some heat spots on them would a warped rotor cause dw? And it's not like it happens all of the time it's once maybe twice on my hour long drive home witch is mixed freeway and back roads I'm not in this jeep very much I got it for a smoking deal so even if it's something big it's not much of a problem to me. Oh and btw thank you for the grammar check. I was in a rush sorry for the displeasure to your eyes and brain thanks again for the help and keep it coming guys
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Old August 10th, 2011, 08:18 AM   #6
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on my xj, the control arm bushings turned out to be the cause of my problems with death wobble.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 08:35 AM   #7
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on my xj, the control arm bushings turned out to be the cause of my problems with death wobble.
is there anyway to diagnose this? or is it pretty much replace it and see if it fixes it?
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Old August 14th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #8
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is there anyway to diagnose this? or is it pretty much replace it and see if it fixes it?
Ive always found that driving one tire up on a ramp and yanking on the dropped CA's works. But what you have doesnt sound like DW, you say it only happens when your slowing down?...replace those rotors first and foremost. Most likely once the forward momentum is pulled away from the lifting front tires, and you apply the brakes, your rotor is causing your steering wheel to feel "wandery"

Now as to what tires you can run, you can run 31s with a minor amount of trimming, if you dont want to trim, then run 30x9.50s. But if you are NEVER going to run it off road, then you can get away with moderate trimming and 32s, Im not saying its a good idea, but Ive seen it done.
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Would check brakes first seeing as you checked the tie rods. Sticking calipers heating up the rotors will cause the DW. It did it on mine. I still have it a little. It is a process of elimination really. Also check trac bar. Lifting it with the spacers is going to make your DW worse. I would figure out what is causing it then lift it.
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I kind of figured the lift would cause it to get worse, that's why I want to fix the issue before I lift it and make it a big problem and yes it will never be wheeled I've just seen quite a few of these with a little lift and bigger tires and it's a good look and the dw seems like it's there at right around 53 mph and hitting the brakes makes it amplify. Unfortunately I was hopping to avoid the guessing game. I'm going to work on it today a little bit after work. Another question the previous owner told me that he thinks it's missing a fan I looked under the hood and it has a decent sized electric fan on the motor side of the radiator and has the threaded water pump for a clutch fan I've never seen an electric fan and a clutch fan on the same side of the radiator. Are they supposed to have both? He was the type of guy how would call triple A to change a flat tire so idk if he's right or not. Thanks for all of the help guys.
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