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Old April 30th, 2011, 12:34 AM   #1
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Default New rear bumper is finished.

I just got this finished and I'm debating on making a few more to sell. This one is 2" x 6" x 1/4" with 1" clevis tabs and 7/8" clevises. Any feedback? Are they good enough to fetch $299?







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Old May 1st, 2011, 08:40 AM   #2
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Looks nice but pretty plain for 299, but im not really sure how much people spend on bumpers, Id much rather build my own. Doesn't look like a lot of beef holding it to the frame
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Old May 18th, 2011, 02:01 PM   #3
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add better approach angle to the ends and inforce the frame mounts a lil more then sell them!
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Old May 18th, 2011, 07:06 PM   #4
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Looks nice but pretty plain for 299, but im not really sure how much people spend on bumpers, Id much rather build my own. Doesn't look like a lot of beef holding it to the frame
yea that gusseted 1/4" plate aint gonna hold shit
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Old May 18th, 2011, 07:17 PM   #5
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yea that gusseted 1/4" plate aint gonna hold shit
Actually, the way it is gusseted (ony 1/2 way down the tab), one solid pull from the D rings on a 45 degree angle will bend the mounting tabs where the tabs meet the end of the frame

The better way to gusset it would be to move the gussets to the outside part of the frame, and run the gussets the full length of the tab (from the bumper to past where it bolts to the frame. That way, the entire tab will be strong in all 3 dimensions from the point it bolts to the frame all the way to the D ring.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 12:21 AM   #6
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Once the bolts on the end are utilized it won't be going anywhere. This isn't my first rodeo.

I'll bet I can pick up the entire back end of the truck with one clevis and nothing will be moving anywhere. Who wants to put some cash on it?

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Old May 24th, 2011, 10:10 AM   #7
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Picking it up or pulling it is different than relying on it to get you out of who knows where when you are stuck.

I'm not saying that the bumper is weak the frame might not hold up, I would use the 2 side bolts and the one on the bottom of the frame that the hitch is going on.

Id also would have tucked it up under the tailgate a little better and had it a little shorter so the end would tuck between the rear bed fenders

I was just trying to be nice and tell you what I thought about the bumper- I wouldn't pay 299 for a 2x6 with the ends capped off with some simple mounting brackets and d rings/mounts
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Looks nice but pretty plain for 299.
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Care to take a guess on how thick the hitches mounting flanges on your tow rig are? The strength is in the design and pulling it at a 45 degree angle wouldn't budge it. Ever hear of the superstructure of a bridge? I prefer keeping things simple instead of some god awfull cluster of plate that looks out of place on anything but a spaceship or mallcrawler. If you are looking for a useless cluster of plate then please don't call me as I only build things that get used.
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Actually, the way it is gusseted (ony 1/2 way down the tab), one solid pull from the D rings on a 45 degree angle will bend the mounting tabs where the tabs meet the end of the frame

The better way to gusset it would be to move the gussets to the outside part of the frame, and run the gussets the full length of the tab (from the bumper to past where it bolts to the frame. That way, the entire tab will be strong in all 3 dimensions from the point it bolts to the frame all the way to the D ring.
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I'll bet I can pick up the entire back end of the truck with one clevis and nothing will be moving anywhere. Who wants to put some cash on it?
I'll bet I could bend it. Picking up the truck is basically no weight at all compared to pulling on the bumper at a 45 degree (or more) pull during a recovery situation. You are puitting the plate in a perfect shear mode at the end of the frame. Think of how they bend metal in a press, you have the same set-up at the end of the frame. Move your gussets to the outside of the mounting tabs so they go all the way from the bumper to where the bolts go through the frame.

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Care to take a guess on how thick the hitches mounting flanges on your tow rig are?
Trailer hitches are tube, or atleast angle iron where they mount to the frame. You are using flat stock steel. Competely different.

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Ever hear of the superstructure of a bridge?
A bridge is designed to have a load on only one angle
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Tell you what, put up some cash and I'll hook the loader up and prove that it won't go anywhere. I'm fully aware of how a press works since I fab steel for a living. The 45 degree pull you are speaking of is exactly the same as a bridge.
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Care to take a guess on how thick the hitches mounting flanges on your tow rig are? The strength is in the design and pulling it at a 45 degree angle wouldn't budge it. Ever hear of the superstructure of a bridge? I prefer keeping things simple instead of some god awfull cluster of plate that looks out of place on anything but a spaceship or mallcrawler. If you are looking for a useless cluster of plate then please don't call me as I only build things that get used.


I couldnt take it anymore, I just pulled the rear bumper and hitch off my jeep- Gonna make a new one just to show you that its possible to have solid frame mounting without a cluster of plate

My trailer hitch has better mounting than your bumper- mounts to the side and bottom of the frame- Probably so it can resists side to side and up/down pulling better. but the people who make trailer hitches probably dont know anything, you should write them and tell them they are over killing the mounting and a loader couldn't pull off half of the mounting they have
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Tell you what, put up some cash and I'll hook the loader up and prove that it won't go anywhere. I'm fully aware of how a press works since I fab steel for a living. The 45 degree pull you are speaking of is exactly the same as a bridge.
You are one tough dude for sure. Please enlighten us, what kind of fab work do you do for a living? By the way, just guessing here but I don't think you fab steel for a living. You may however, fab things out of steel. I've been a supplier to the steel industry for years and I've yet to see a steel fabber anywhere.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 12:16 PM   #14
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I couldnt take it anymore, I just pulled the rear bumper and hitch off my jeep- Gonna make a new one just to show you that its possible to have solid frame mounting without a cluster of plate

My trailer hitch has better mounting than your bumper- mounts to the side and bottom of the frame- Probably so it can resists side to side and up/down pulling better. but the people who make trailer hitches probably dont know anything, you should write them and tell them they are over killing the mounting and a loader couldn't pull off half of the mounting they have
I guess since my post count isn't very high I can't know anything. I'm not 16 and this isn't even close to the first vehicle I've messed with. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
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You are one tough dude for sure. Please enlighten us, what kind of fab work do you do for a living? By the way, just guessing here but I don't think you fab steel for a living. You may however, fab things out of steel. I've been a supplier to the steel industry for years and I've yet to see a steel fabber anywhere.
I build compactors for Waste Management. My offer still stands, $500 bucks if you can yank it off with YOUR truck or Jeep. The only catch is I get to try and yank yours off with my truck.
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Yank it off versus bending or distorting it is a different thing.
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Yank it off versus bending or distorting it is a different thing.
Also want to price out and post what the materials cost since your a supplier? I'm in South Elgin, IL and have cash in hand.
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Is your clevis mount 2 pieces sandwich welded together?
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Is your clevis mount 2 pieces sandwich welded together?
It was the prototype so yes.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 12:32 PM   #20
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F.Y.I Bones does not know anything about statics and dynamics. I am pretty sure he is talking out of his ass and knows nothing about engineering technology.

ultimatehellhound I think your bumper is more super-badder-assed than anything anyone on this site can build you should sell it for $399. $299 sounds like it's too good to be true! You go girl!!!!
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