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Old December 13th, 2005, 09:57 AM   #1
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10441443/


There are pro's and con's to this thing IMO and good and bad on both sides of the anonymity fence.
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Old December 13th, 2005, 12:24 PM   #2
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I can't figure out if this is good or bad.

The problem is, if its just a "chip" it will be easy to get around
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Old December 13th, 2005, 12:54 PM   #3
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yep, it will be circumvented, not too worried
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Old December 13th, 2005, 12:54 PM   #4
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The downside is like Microsoft's Passport thing, they will try and make it so you can only do things from your registered computer. What i don't like is the unclear reference to monitoring your use of your own software "for malitious purposes". I'm glad I build my own computers, but if they throw that into aftermarket motherboards I'll be pissed.
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......Billions of dollars lost last year because of scams and fraud.....yeah it is a great idea, but still appears like a trojan horse. TPM's on cell phones though seems odd. How often does a person do a CC transaction over a cell phone?
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the computer version is for windows based computers ...nothing for OSX, Linux and Unix
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......Billions of dollars lost last year because of scams and fraud.....yeah it is a great idea, but still appears like a trojan horse. TPM's on cell phones though seems odd. How often does a person do a CC transaction over a cell phone?
I do 12 per year, but not with a card reading phone. it's how I pay my phone bill.
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HORRIBLE idea.

and the chips... well anything in life can be circumvented
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I do 12 per year, but not with a card reading phone. it's how I pay my phone bill.


me too
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Old December 13th, 2005, 01:44 PM   #10
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You guys are missing one point though, if you circumvent the chip and the process requires the chip on the server end, you're screwed into using it. Kinda like HDTV coming in 2009 with the phaseout of non HD signals. You get squat if you don't pony up for a new setup.
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Old December 13th, 2005, 01:54 PM   #11
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for every new idiot-proof device, along comes a new idiot.

and therefore

for every new security device, along comes a new hack to get around it. it's business.

i believe that most companies who come out with security measures are probably the ones that hand out the key to them. think about it. if nobody ever hacked or got around a security measure, then there would be no reason to update it or invent a new one. business would stop.
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