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Old November 21st, 2010, 07:47 AM   #41
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Congrats on having your girls interested in hanging out with Daddy in the garage. Mine is now 13 and we still have a lot of fun time hanging out together. She fights all the time with her younger brother for who gets my CJ. We are going to start working on her truck this winter. She is starting with a 86 dodge 3/4 ton. It will be a good time I'm sure.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 07:53 AM   #42
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While the build is somewhat slow-going (as they always are in my household), the collection of neccesary parts is going pretty well.

I drove down to JCR last week and picked up Mira's Stage 2 rear bumper. Some of the finish grinding is a little uneven, but a little time with a grinder and sander should correct that pretty easily. Overall, it's a pretty nice piece (especially for the sale price at which I bought it), and will work very well for her XJ. We just need to give it a quick coat of primer to keep it from surface-rusting prior to install; it may be a great job for Mira over the upcoming long Thanksgiving weekend.



I also picked up a set of like-new Rubicon front coil springs (and misc. other parts) on craigslist. They have been listed for several months, but were grossly overpriced. After several price drops, they became a very good deal, and I got them. There were several other OEM Rubicon suspension parts included (sway bar links, etc.), along with a TJ bottle jack/handle, which we'll also use for Mira's XJ.

I'm hoping the Rubicon springs give us an additional 1/2" - 1" of lift in the front (combined with 2" Teraflex BB spacers).



We also broke even on one of the '94 XJ 2-dr. parts rig, so it's just a matter of pulling a few last misc. parts, and breaking out the sawzall to cut it up and take it in for scrap. Mira (and her little sister) should enjoy helping with the demolition/sawing, too.


More to come after Thanksgiving weekend (the next solid block of time that I'll have my girls).

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Everything I have read on these springs says you might get a 1" drop out of them. If that happens I do have a set of up country springs I'll sell ya. They're just sitting around because I stepped up to a 3" coil.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 08:22 AM   #43
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Congrats on having your girls interested in hanging out with Daddy in the garage. Mine is now 13 and we still have a lot of fun time hanging out together. She fights all the time with her younger brother for who gets my CJ. We are going to start working on her truck this winter. She is starting with a 86 dodge 3/4 ton. It will be a good time I'm sure.
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Everything I have read on these springs says you might get a 1" drop out of them. If that happens I do have a set of up country springs I'll sell ya. They're just sitting around because I stepped up to a 3" coil.
I have never heard about a 1" drop with Rubicon springs; only that, depending on the part #, they may not give the lift anticipated. Either way, we don't really need the additional lift. These are the same exact springs that are on my '05 Unlimited, and have yet to sag in the least (I assume to the higher spring rate)...not like many of the sagging-front TJs I see.

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I have never heard about a 1" drop with Rubicon springs; only that, depending on the part #, they may not give the lift anticipated. Either way, we don't really need the additional lift. These are the same exact springs that are on my '05 Unlimited, and have yet to sag in the least (I assume to the higher spring rate)...not like many of the sagging-front TJs I see.

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OK. I'm kinda curious to see what happens now. I know that is the big thing on JF when everyone sees a set of them for sale. Most people are just told pick up a V8 ZJ set and be done with it.

FWIW If they do give a little lift she'll also like the upgraded spring rate. I know I did with my up country springs. After I installed them I noticed that I had less nose dive while braking and an all around better ride.
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Keeping an eye on this one. Good catching up with you Mira and Craig in TC!

And you gave me a great idea. Maybe by the time my daughter is ten (four short years?!), I will have a driveway. And a garage. And I will have room to wrench on extra vehicles, like I used to.

And, since you are such the parts finder... keep your eyes out for a white TJ hood. :) Finders fee.

Look forward to some more updates you two!
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:06 PM   #46
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I thought the xj springs gave a Tj a 1" lift so they might break even or lower it a tad.

looking good though
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 06:30 PM   #47
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I thought the xj springs gave a Tj a 1" lift so they might break even or lower it a tad.

looking good though
I hadn't researched this a whole lot, but did some searches after the original post about vehicle heights. There's varying internet opinions/folklore about XJ springs being longer than TJ springs, TJ springs lowering XJs, etc. I already compared the Rubi springs against some stock XJ springs, and they're the same physical length. I can't speak to the spring rates, but know that the Rubi springs (at least this part #) have the higher spring rate, and will compare once it's time to install them.

Thanks for the heads-up.

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Old November 27th, 2010, 03:08 PM   #48
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Great start guys! Remember if you need a hand please give me a call. I'd love to come help out as well.
Thanks again Craig for letting know your doing this. I'll keep and eye out as well for cheap/free parts for ya!

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Thanks Kels.

Well, here's ~60% of what's left of the '94 XJ parts rig. My Sawzall made pretty short work of hacking it up, although it did get its revenge. The A-pillar kicked back as I was finishing cutting the front section off the other night, and tagged my head. I didn't end up going to the hospital, but flip a coin as to whether I should have gotten a stitch or two. Since I have a bald noggin and can't hide it easily, I'll have to make up a story about a bar room brawl, and taking a bottle over the head in the process. Needless to say, my girlfriend may have already added a hard hat to my Christmas list.

We're saving the roof sheet metal and a couple other sections of the vehicle to use for potential floor pan fixes. We recycle/reclaim anything we can.

Off to Padnos for recycling next week. We're hoping to recoup $50-75 for the scrap steel.


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Old November 27th, 2010, 07:00 PM   #50
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Craig - don't know if you've used your Blair Rotabroach yet - order extra locating pins before you need them. I'm currently getting by with a siding nail until my replacement parts get here.
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just a little bit on the springs. i put a set of cherokee springs into my 99tj and got around an inch of lift.


and this looks like a fun project. my first jeep was an xj as well.
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Old November 28th, 2010, 03:55 PM   #52
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We got some good progress done on my jeep today...we cut apart 1 of our parts jeeps with the sawzall, it was AWESOME!!! We also cut out some scrap parts that we can use to repair the floors in my Jeep.




We threw the junk metal in dad's army trailer. He climbed on top of it and claimed he was the king of scrap metal.






P.S.- Today I also pretended to be a hobo. I used a bandana, a hair tie, and a stick that I found on the ground.





-Mira
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Craig - don't know if you've used your Blair Rotabroach yet - order extra locating pins before you need them. I'm currently getting by with a siding nail until my replacement parts get here.
Not yet, Scot. We've been focused on getting the rusty parts XJ out of the garage (now done ). Hopefully, we'll be using the Rotabroach set within a couple weeks.

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This is an awesome build!! looks like a lot of fun.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 06:30 AM   #55
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Not yet, Scot. We've been focused on getting the rusty parts XJ out of the garage (now done ). Hopefully, we'll be using the Rotabroach set within a couple weeks.

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When you need replacements, Handsontools.com was the best price I could find on rotabroach parts.
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I got to work this morning with my new Blair spot weld cutter & Rotobroach kits. These things work well, and make pretty short business of separating the spot-welded sheet metal. I got the driver front foot area cut out, and will work tomorrow on cutting/grinding some sheet metal from an old hood to fit. I radiused most of the corners, with the thought that there will be less chance of stress cracking down the road after welding in the new sheet metal (this may or may not be over-planning, but...). Before the new sheet metal is laid in place, the tops of the frame rails will get a treatment of Naval Jelly to neutralize any residual rust, and then some 3-M Weld-Thru Primer.

I was pleasantly surprised by how clean the inside of the unibody frame rails looked. Even the tinge of red in the photos isn't rust, but rather the same red clay coating that's under most of the vehicle (it was last registered in Maryland...must be common there).




I also spent about an hour with a grinder/flapwheel, and a orbital sander cleaning up the corners on Mira's new JCR rear bumper. I got it test-fit on the Jeep, and am very happy with the way it looks. I just need to get it in a coat of primer until we're ready to topcoat it.

The way they recess the hitch into the bumper is really slick, and gives a streamlined look to the bumper...nice work, JCR. I did slide a ball mount into the hitch, and it's a little looser/sloppier than I expected. We can always use a silent hitch pin to tighten things up for towing, if needed.

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How does that work? Do you put the pin in behind the bumper? That's a good idea!
Bumper looks nice, btw, but I always imagine myself really knocking my knee/shin/hip on the tabs. I haven't decided which way I am going with mine when I put it together.

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How does that work? Do you put the pin in behind the bumper? That's a good idea!
Bumper looks nice, btw, but I always imagine myself really knocking my knee/shin/hip on the tabs. I haven't decided which way I am going with mine when I put it together.
Yeah, you put the pin in from behind (plenty of room underneath/behind). There are also safety chain hook-ups behind, but they'd be pretty tight. I'll probably hook a universal link on them to make it easier to hook up chains.

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...and here's the makeshift replacment floorpan piece that was made from part of the old hood. It'll be plug welded to the frame rails (to replace the OEM spot welds), and butt-welded around the perimeter. I didn't want to lap-weld a piece over top of the existing floorpan, as it's just another place for rust to start.


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For the passenger side (which is in rougher shape than the driver side), I picked up a full floorpan (57" long, I believe) from Sherman Auto Parts today. It looks like the one in the photo below (passenger side only). Bonus...the company is based out of Washington, Michigan, so we're supporting another Michigan business with Mira's Cherokee build.

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I also found this "paint inspiration" photo while surfing over my lunch hour. It's very similar to the look we'll probably be going for.
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