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Old November 10th, 2010, 07:45 PM   #41
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Probably not so it must not be able to be done. Ive never welded in my life. nor do i know what im doing.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 07:54 PM   #42
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my take on a rear 60.becky has one..broke 2 shafts.mike has one broke 4 shafts.alot of money to make them 35 spline.luke had a steer 60..broke ring and pinion 4 times,shafts i can't count all the chromo's he snapped.14 bolt for 100 bucks..done!!
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Old November 10th, 2010, 07:55 PM   #43
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i would wager a 10,000 dollar bet that the jig and dom will not hold the axle straight.
You are correct, the jig will do nothing to keep it straight during welding. The dom on the inside will minimize the amount the weld shrinks as it cools though. If you use proper tacks and weld procedures it will not move.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 08:07 PM   #44
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You are correct, the jig will do nothing to keep it straight during welding. The dom on the inside will minimize the amount the weld shrinks as it cools though. If you use proper tacks and weld procedures it will not move.


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its just hard to do and not warp, most of the time they need to be aligned in a press after welding or using heat from what i have understood
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Old November 10th, 2010, 08:11 PM   #45
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my take on a rear 60.becky has one..broke 2 shafts.mike has one broke 4 shafts.alot of money to make them 35 spline.luke had a steer 60..broke ring and pinion 4 times,shafts i can't count all the chromo's he snapped.14 bolt for 100 bucks..done!!
I think I am going to end up doing the 14b. I really like the idea of the hp but I think i would rather have something that I don't have to worry about breaking. I want these to be the last axles I ever have to buy for this jeep.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 08:20 PM   #46
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its just hard to do and not warp, most of the time they need to be aligned in a press after welding or using heat from what i have understood
If I had to take a guess I would say that tacking it would be the biggest issue with keeping it straight. After you make your first tack the whole joint will shrink a bit. Then when you make your second tack the first tack is now cooled so it is stationary and the second tack will then shrink more. The same goes for the third and fourth tacks. If you pre-heat the joint (which you should do anyway for strength) and keep all your tacks hot during the whole fit-up time they will be able to all shrink at the same time when you remove the heat.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 05:17 AM   #47
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When i trussed my 9in that was in my bronco, i did all the welding on it, put the jig in and one tube was off. Chop sawed a tube off, stuck the jig in lined it up and welded. jig pulled in and out with out binding after welding. Weather or not it was perfectly strait ill never know but it is still floating around this site some where and has had man of owners now and i really dont think it has had a easy life. That was my basis for saying it probably wont move. Im sure if you did it that way, especially being a front axle with joints in it you would not have any issues as long as the caster/camber was good.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 06:07 AM   #48
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Very interesting read.
Is is a pleasure to learn from someone who can explain technique in terms I can understand.
Thank you gentlemen!

I just need to practice more.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 02:17 PM   #49
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i just got done machining the long side tube for a hp 60 im putting together, i did this same this took a hp 60 and made it pass. drop. i chose to re tube mine and its not a lot to large of job.. but the new tube was $250 and i had to machine the I.D to accommodate the inner seal. my fathers truck he cut and butt welded like your talking about in 86 and that axle is still being beat today.. i guess if i were to do it again i would have just butt welded mine together.. just my .02
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