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Old September 8th, 2010, 12:13 PM   #1
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I have 79 fj 40 axles under my 92 wrangler (chevy 350swap) and i am running junk mile marker locking hubs that break every time i go out and i am just wondering if there is any hope to make these things strong or should i just cut my looses and get some 3/4 tons. i know i can get chrome molly burfields from trail gear but will those hold up to rocks and hill climbing? also who makes a good strong locking hub? thanks.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 12:32 PM   #2
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did you look at the lock out stuff they have on trail gear
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The stock hubs on all the Toyota stuff are far stronger than the after market. Not 100% sure on the FJ40 stuff, with the minitruck axles there are drive flanges and chromo hub gears available.

Never broke a hub with 38.5 swampers with chromo hub gears and ARB hub studs...
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yes, arp studs would be good i have snaped all the studs clean off at the spindel. so with factory hubs and chrome molly burfields they should hold up pritty strong.
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yes, arp studs would be good i have snaped all the studs clean off at the spindel. so with factory hubs and chrome molly burfields they should hold up pritty strong.
Are those crappy lockouts using cone washers or just nuts and lock washers.

The studs shouldn't really be taking much shear force. They should be tightened down to clamp the lockout body to the hub, that is the main strength. By going to ARP studs, you gain strength because you can tighten them to a higher torque value.


If you really to Keep the toys, then I would get 30 spline chrome moly axles (from Longfield, not Trail Gear), and then use 30 spline Minitruck style birfields, and switch to factory Aisin hubs with chrome moly hub gears, and ARB studs.

Lot of money, though.
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does anyone have history with the trail gear molly burfields, why do you say use the longfield and not trail gear?
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Just because I have a good history with Longfield / Bobby Long, guy is as class act as there is. Trail Gear just takes other peoples ideas, farms them out to Chinese manufacturing, and sells them cheap. I've got stuff from them as well, but I always like Longs. Same reason I got all my diamond axle and other hop up parts from Brian Ellinger @ FROR, guy is awesome. Rather support a guy like that.
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Cool, thanks for the info. do you think with longfield axels these things will hold up to rock crowling, i got a taste for rocks at rocks and vallys up in harrison untill i broke and i wont more.
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THey are damn tough, strong as or stronger than stock dana 60 shafts. I snapped both ring and pinions, but didn't hurt the shafts, runnign 100:1 low gear and 38.5s on heavy beadlocks.
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That was my only other worry, the pinion shafts snap. any ideas on beefing those up.
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I've got a 350,700r4, dana300 drivetrain with 83 yota axles in my 93 yj. open frnt, det. In rear on 35" boggers. I haven't had any issues witht the front axle at all, and its bone stock. Including the hubs. (Aisin). I've been on the rocks at r & v's. Broke a drive shaft and skid plate. But, axles are good. Lol.
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