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Old October 5th, 2010, 07:13 AM   #1
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I want to see what makes these assholes tick.
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Old October 5th, 2010, 07:36 AM   #2
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I want to see what makes these assholes tick.
It's a good read.
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I am not 100% sure but apparently it has something to do with shaving off all your hair before going to a strip club and then flying planes into buildings.
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Old October 5th, 2010, 08:23 AM   #4
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I am not 100% sure but apparently it has something to do with shaving off all your hair before going to a strip club and then flying planes into buildings.
I've got the the shaved head thing covered.

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WHAT!?
64: Mutual Disillusion
64:14 O ye who believe! Lo! among your wives and your children there are enemies for you, therefor beware of them. And if ye efface and overlook and forgive, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (64:14-15)
Your wives and children are your enemies. They are to you only a temptation.
64:15 Your wealth and your children are only a temptation, whereas Allah! with Him is an immense reward.
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Old October 5th, 2010, 11:05 AM   #6
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64: Mutual Disillusion
64:14 O ye who believe! Lo! among your wives and your children there are enemies for you, therefor beware of them. And if ye efface and overlook and forgive, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (64:14-15)
Your wives and children are your enemies. They are to you only a temptation.
64:15 Your wealth and your children are only a temptation, whereas Allah! with Him is an immense reward.
I know it's full of that stuff. The Bible is also chock full of hateful things.
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I know it's full of that stuff. The Bible is also chock full of hateful things.
That's why you need to read it with context.
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I want to read it so when some Allah freak starts pushing his agenda on me, I can rebut.
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Old October 5th, 2010, 12:54 PM   #9
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I want to read it so when some Allah freak starts pushing his agenda on me, I can rebut.

So what you want to do is Study it then? Because just reading it will probably not give you any more "fuel" then not reading it. Just like Christians, as a Child they are taught from it and know it very well. If you do try and use it agianst them they can always pull the "It's not in the Original language card". Some of them believe that it isn't proper to read it in English.

That being said, Good luck.
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So what you want to do is Study it then? Because just reading it will probably not give you any more "fuel" then not reading it. Just like Christians, as a Child they are taught from it and know it very well. If you do try and use it agianst them they can always pull the "It's not in the Original language card". Some of them believe that it isn't proper to read it in English.

That being said, Good luck.
Yes, I want to study the Koran. Not that I am interested in Islam as a personal religion but quite the opposite.

I try to be tolerant and accepting of all religions as part of my personal choice of being a Diest. I am also interested in aspects of different faiths including Christianity. The funny thing is that the more I study religion, the more I feel I've made the correct choice for my personal religious beliefs.

I believe the Koran is much like the Bible. Written by men with a personal agenda to gain something. I also feel that it (like the Bible) is subject to gross interpretation and the people that are interpreting it have a personal agenda. Studying the Koran will allow me to (maybe) understand the thinking process of some of these left field Muslims out there. Knowlege is power, power is good.

Now Christian guys, don't get all wound up because what I've just written. I support your right to believe what ever you want too. I just enjoy making you guys produce facts here and there and I enjoy challenging mainstream religous thinking. Our little debates make us all smarter.
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Yes, I want to study the Koran. Not that I am interested in Islam as a personal religion but quite the opposite.

I try to be tolerant and accepting of all religions as part of my personal choice of being a Diest. I am also interested in aspects of different faiths including Christianity. The funny thing is that the more I study religion, the more I feel I've made the correct choice for my personal religious beliefs.

I believe the Koran is much like the Bible. Written by men with a personal agenda to gain something. I also feel that it (like the Bible) is subject to gross interpretation and the people that are interpreting it have a personal agenda. Studying the Koran will allow me to (maybe) understand the thinking process of some of these left field Muslims out there. Knowlege is power, power is good.

Now Christian guys, don't get all wound up because what I've just written. I support your right to believe what ever you want too. I just enjoy making you guys produce facts here and there and I enjoy challenging mainstream religous thinking. Our little debates make us all smarter.
Is it Ironic that you spelled Knowledge wrong? JK

I understand why, It just came off as if you were going to read it once and then be done. I also have no problem with what you said about the bible. Many people believe that. I think it was written with inspiration from God and then Twisted by those in power AFTER it was written. Just like any other Human endeavor, religion gets corrupt. I have Faith that what I read is what they wrote though.

Our "Little Debates" are great to have. If you don't get challenged in what you think you don't really know how Valuable it can be. Also, hearing a Point of view out side of Christian Culture helps me to be able to understand why people think what they do about Christianity. It's a Great tool.
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I want to see what makes these assholes tick.
I haven't read the Koran myself, but from what i've talked with my grandpa about (he's read it, why, I don't know, he's old lol), the Koran and the Bible are pretty similar. Not exact of course, but things like Not murdering or committing adulty
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Nuggets, if you really want to understand and know the koran, you do know that you will have to go to a muslim nation and live with them and study with them to get a full dose of islam. live it and breath it but don't kill it
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I read it, that shit is the bomb!
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Old October 5th, 2010, 05:36 PM   #15
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I started to read it once. didn't get very far.
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Old October 5th, 2010, 05:44 PM   #16
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I started to read it once. didn't get very far.
I had the same problem with Mein Kampf. I got about 1/3 of the way through and I couldn't take anymore. It was a hard read and I pretty much figured Hitler was insane within the first few pages.
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I haven't read the Koran myself, but from what i've talked with my grandpa about (he's read it, why, I don't know, he's old lol), the Koran and the Bible are pretty similar. Not exact of course, but things like Not murdering or committing adulty
That would be because the two men that both religions were kind of started from are from the same Family. Ishmael and Issac. Ishmael was born from one of Abraham's Wife's Servants. Issac was born of Abraham's Wife. Abraham's wife forced her servant to leave after Issac was born. Issac received Abraham's Birth right Ishmael did not. Issac continued on his father's beliefs the through his line the 12 Tribes of Israel were born.

As you can see, It would make sense that Ishmael's religion would be similar to the Hebrew religion because they were kind of "born" in the same "house".
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You will find that the crazies, like the crazies of all religions, take thing in their context and don't follow the core of the faith.
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I'm just fine with hating the rag heads...I don't need to know what makes them tick as long as its not coming from their pocket...
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You will find that the crazies, like the crazies of all religions, take thing in their context and don't follow the core of the faith.
That's why I feel that more of use should read and understand the Koran so we can attempt to keep the crazies in check.
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