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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:02 AM   #1
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LANSING (AP) ó Legislation aimed at preventing Michigan welfare recipients from withdrawing taxpayer money from ATM machines while at casinos has passed the Senate.

The bill passed unanimously Tuesday and advances to the House.

Michigan uses a debit or "bridge" card to deliver food and cash benefits to public assistance recipients. Many automatic teller machines accept the card to withdraw cash benefits.

Republican Sen. Bill Hardiman of Kentwood wants the state to block access at casinos. He says most people would agree that gambling with taxpayer dollars "isn't an appropriate use."

Hardiman says the state has determined about $87,000 in assistance funding was withdrawn at Detroit's MotorCity Casino within a recent one-year period.

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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:05 AM   #2
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I agree, but I also see ATM's just outside the casinos popping up.
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I can agree with this legislation. Will it entirely stop the welfare folks from spending the money at the C-No? No. But making it as difficult as possible seems like a good thing to me.

I would love to hear arguments against this.
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I would love to hear arguments against this.
It's racist!!! It is well known the disadvantaged minorities go to casino's buffets for cheap food.
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87,000...one casino, Michigan has 23 of them.
This is just one more thing that pisses me off about the failed system.
...shouldn't have been allowed to happen from the begining.
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It's sad the amount of people I know that are on welfare that I see at my casinos up here in the up
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:18 AM   #8
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It sounds like a good idea, but I doubt it will change much. They'll just run out to a nearby convenience store or gas station.
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It sounds like a good idea, but I doubt it will change much. They'll just run out to a nearby convenience store or gas station.
maybe thats the point, to get the fat lazy asses up and exercising...if they get 1500 of them to lose enough weight, maybe 2 of them will get a job and stop living off of the rest of us
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maybe thats the point, to get the fat lazy asses up and exercising...if they get 1500 of them to lose enough weight, maybe 2 of them will get a job and stop living off of the rest of us
Very unlikely they would get a job. Probably would just get a heart attack from walking and stress the medicaid system.
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maybe thats the point, to get the fat lazy asses up and exercising...if they get 1500 of them to lose enough weight, maybe 2 of them will get a job and stop living off of the rest of us
No, they'd just end up getting a super big gulp and a bag of chips while there and negate any positive effect.
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No, they'd just end up getting a super big gulp and a bag of chips while there and negate any positive effect.
As big spenders, they get that stuff comped at the casino. Welfare people are probably the only ones left spending much at the slots these days.
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I dont understand why you can get cash off of these cards at all.
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I dont understand why you can get cash off of these cards at all.
I'm guessing some sort of cash assistance.
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I dont understand why you can get cash off of these cards at all.
because the food portion does not allow them to buy things like toilet paper, laundry soap, shampoo, etc...or at least, thats the justification

its not that they get it, its the amount they get and the lax policies and regulations placed on it. Personally, I think if this sytem is going to be in effect, there needs to be alot of changes. Required drug/alcohol testing, required community service for X hours per week (even if its sweeping the sidewalk on thier block, I dont care, make them do something) and limit how much they get to be equivilent to min wage x 40 hrs/week, plus maybe housing assistance (which they would not see anyway, would go straight to thier landlord, or maybe setup apartment buildings for them)...basically, make it equal/greater work to get assistance as it is to get a job and work for what you want and need. There should also be home inspections/audits done, to insure they are not selling drugs, working under the table, or doing anything else illegal while getting this assistance.

Yes, I realize that puts us several steps closer to socialism, but at least then the community would get something back for all of the handouts, and may help keep the lazy asses off of it.
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I think that because i have to submit to drug testing in order to make the wage that our wonderful government taxes to give to these helpless souls, said helpless souls should have to piss in a cup to be eligible for state welfare. That would save some tax payer $$$
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87,000...one casino, Michigan has 23 of them.
This is just one more thing that pisses me off about the failed system.
...shouldn't have been allowed to happen from the begining.
Eff lansing!
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because the food portion does not allow them to buy things like toilet paper, laundry soap, shampoo, etc...or at least, thats the justification

its not that they get it, its the amount they get and the lax policies and regulations placed on it. Personally, I think if this sytem is going to be in effect, there needs to be alot of changes. Required drug/alcohol testing, required community service for X hours per week (even if its sweeping the sidewalk on thier block, I dont care, make them do something) and limit how much they get to be equivilent to min wage x 40 hrs/week, plus maybe housing assistance (which they would not see anyway, would go straight to thier landlord, or maybe setup apartment buildings for them)...basically, make it equal/greater work to get assistance as it is to get a job and work for what you want and need. There should also be home inspections/audits done, to insure they are not selling drugs, working under the table, or doing anything else illegal while getting this assistance.

Yes, I realize that puts us several steps closer to socialism, but at least then the community would get something back for all of the handouts, and may help keep the lazy asses off of it.
I couldn't agree more. The fact is, if you make them do community service to get the bridge card, most will say efff that and go get a job on their terms.
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I couldn't agree more. The fact is, if you make them do community service to get the bridge card, most will say efff that and go get a job on their terms.
I agree also. Many of our parks that were built in the 1930 as "make work" programs are being closed because the state can't afford to maintain then. Letís put welfare recipients to work maintaining them.
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