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Old September 9th, 2010, 06:57 PM   #1
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Liftin my 84 Toyota Pickup

Im just triing to get a idea on what i can do for cheap to fit some either 36's or 38's under my toyota.. it has a flat bed on the back already.. ive heard of just doing a spring over.. but i need to know more on what i need to do... if i went the route of a spring over lift... would i need axle wrap bars or anything like that...and what would be the best gears to put in it with the 36's or 38's..let me know thanks
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Old September 9th, 2010, 07:02 PM   #2
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Throw on some chevy leaves in the rear and some toyota rear spring up front and add some 5.29's and you'll be good to go.
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Old September 9th, 2010, 07:05 PM   #3
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Throw on some chevy leaves in the rear and some toyota rear spring up front and add some 5.29's and you'll be good to go.
is that with the spring over..
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Old September 9th, 2010, 07:41 PM   #4
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They are sprung over from the factory, so, yeah, thats with a spring over...

Here's a pic of my old 1983 truck (85 cab) with bone stock 83 rear springs up front, and 1/2ton 4x4 chevy leaves (mid 90s) in the back.

Those are 36" swampers, I later switched to 38.5" swampers, dropped the front hanger an inch and redid the front packs to get a touch more.

They work great, and are dirt cheap. The fronts are very flexible, the rears are OK, you'll want some weight towards the back, and they work better..You'll need to redo your rear spring hangers.
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Old September 9th, 2010, 07:57 PM   #5
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toys are set up factory sprung over springs on top of axle. now as was stated throw stock rears under the front may need to add some extra spare leafes to help with the motor weight then throw f150 or chevys out back and call it good. i did my sas with that setup and clears 37 with no trouble trimmed the fenders just to keep tires out of them under flex.
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Old September 9th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #6
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i want to beable to drive it on the road a little so what gears should i use...
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Old September 10th, 2010, 11:05 PM   #7
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5.29' if you are running some big tread...
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Old September 10th, 2010, 11:36 PM   #8
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I would go 5.71's if you are going 37 or bigger.....I have 5.29's and my truck struggles @60mph....my 37 wheel/tire are heavy though

extremly worn out 5" allpro frt and 6"rear
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Old September 11th, 2010, 12:12 AM   #9
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wouldnt go more than 529 any more then you loose what strength the ring and pinions has.
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What is the lowest gear you can throw in without needing a new carrier?
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wouldnt go more than 529 any more then you loose what strength the ring and pinions has.
myth...I know many that run them w/o problems
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What is the lowest gear you can throw in without needing a new carrier?
5.71 is the lowest available
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Old September 11th, 2010, 08:12 AM   #12
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They all use the same carrier. Heavy wheels will kil you. I felt decent with 4.88s and 36" swamper sx's on regular steel rims. going to 38.5 sx's on steel beadlocks and I couldn't hit 55mph on flat ground and couldn't spin them in the mud/snow anymore...

My 1st motor was a 22R with header, cam, and a weber 38.. that felt better with the 36s and 4.10s than my later bone stock 22re with 4.88s...
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Old September 13th, 2010, 06:17 PM   #13
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i have 4.10's in mine but dual t cases. With my gutless 22r i can hit 60mph. spins 35's pretty good. i would go with 5.29's the pinion on 5.71's is alot smaller, putting another weak link in an already weak link.
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