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Old August 18th, 2010, 04:44 PM   #21
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see, that's not socialism, that's more authoritarianism. It's not fair to lump those things in with socialism. You have to understand though, that no government or leader is likely to be one thing. It's a combination of things, like our mixed economy.
I was misunderstood.

I agree with you it is definitely a mixed bag.
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I was misunderstood.

I agree with you it is definitely a mixed bag.
At least you didn't "misunderestimate" or "refudiate".
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Old August 18th, 2010, 05:25 PM   #24
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Article 1, Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
You missed the "of the United States" part of that phrase.

OK, now define "general welfare of the United States"

We've all had this discussion before and it went nowhere. I really don't care to waste my time having it again.
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Only "Real Americans" are white, conservative GOP Christian males. Oops, better find another land mass to settle in, maybe dominate their populace and have no safety net. A place such as Haiti
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And if I might add, if he hasn't noticed, one of the biggest proponents of taking away our constitutional rights to speech, free assembly, etc. was Bush.
Maybe you could explain how Bush was worse than Obama, because I don't see it.
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You missed the "of the United States" part of that phrase.

OK, now define "general welfare of the United States"

We've all had this discussion before and it went nowhere. I really don't care to waste my time having it again.
Since when have any of these discussions gone anywhere?
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