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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:15 PM   #1
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What should I look for? (Good and bad). Are they to wide for the quad trails after a long arm kit is installed?

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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:18 PM   #2
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im sure the expert will see this but i think they are pretty wicked. they have a new one coming out with a 1100cc in it i understand now.

i cannt remember what the guys name is but he has had 2 one of each model and says he loves them.

what do you plan to do with it? work around the house or blast through the dunes with the long arm kit.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:25 PM   #3
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I want something I can run the trails in baldwin/twin lakes/ect + use at TT/bundy/silver. Just debating something that I can use more than the jeep
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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:26 PM   #4
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A stock RZR is 50" wide. Thats the "legal" limit for orv trails in michigan. A long arm will well put you over that. If your not worried about riding on the orv trails then do it. My quad is at 52" now and its a scary tight fit down the trails. Most long travel kits for the rzr are +3" per side. With a side x side it would be scary at 56" wide in the trails and you might find yourself in some shitty spots. But they are fawkin sweet! do it!
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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:29 PM   #5
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Yes you need a horn, d.o.t. approved tires like some 28" tsl's or something. Mirrors, turn signals, and if you run a windsheild you'll need wiper and washer. If no windshield then you'll need eye protection. It falls in the same category as a dune buggy the s.o.s. has a list of required safety equipment. Just make sure it has all that stuff. It should already come with brake lights, hi/lo headlights and marker/tail lights, and a sway bar the rest is smaller stuff.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:35 PM   #7
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rzrforums.net has alot of good info on making it street legal and mods...
the one thing I learned is if buying used check compression, the factory air box is famous for letting dirt by and prematurely wearing rings.
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Frame is notorious for breaking especially at the cross supports - definitely want a gusset kit. Frame is only like 0.065" wall thickness too. Radiator fan comes loose and crashes into the radiator which usually ends up with a hole in your radiator and a tow back to camp. Most guys strongly recommend the extended factory warranty and dump them when the warranty runs out. They complain of several small issues, but enough to put them in the shop quite often.

RZR stock width is 50" - the only SxS legal in MI on ATV trails. The RZR-S comes with factory long travel and is 54" - not legal for ATV trails in Michigan. Rhino and Teryx are both around 54" in width. The new CanAm's are supposed to be pretty nice and alot faster than a RZR. Rhino/Teryx can be converted to four seaters whereas the RZR cannot. I ended up with a Rhino because I wanted a 4 seater so the whole family could ride.

Google "TR-54" form is you want to make it street legal. Michigan is one of the most stringent states around for making them street legal - you'll need automotive style windshield ($500), DOT approved tires and rims ($1000), functioning wipers and reservoir for fluid, license plate bracket and light, headlights, tail lights, turn signals, brake lights, horn, rear view mirrors, and a few more items that should already be on most SxS's. When I added everything up, it was around $2500 to make it street legal in Michigan. Other states like Utah, Arizona, and Illinois only require the $200 "street legal kits" you see on ebay which are just horn, blinker and lights.
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All of the above places have 4x4 legal area's, you bring no logix to the conversationssssss
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Frame is notorious for breaking especially at the cross supports - definitely want a gusset kit. Frame is only like 0.065" wall thickness too. Radiator fan comes loose and crashes into the radiator which usually ends up with a hole in your radiator and a tow back to camp. Most guys strongly recommend the extended factory warranty and dump them when the warranty runs out. They complain of several small issues, but enough to put them in the shop quite often.

RZR stock width is 50" - the only SxS legal in MI on ATV trails. The RZR-S comes with factory long travel and is 54" - not legal for ATV trails in Michigan. Rhino and Teryx are both around 54" in width. The new CanAm's are supposed to be pretty nice and alot faster than a RZR. Rhino/Teryx can be converted to four seaters whereas the RZR cannot. I ended up with a Rhino because I wanted a 4 seater so the whole family could ride.

Google "TR-54" form is you want to make it street legal. Michigan is one of the most stringent states around for making them street legal - you'll need automotive style windshield ($500), DOT approved tires and rims ($1000), functioning wipers and reservoir for fluid, license plate bracket and light, headlights, tail lights, turn signals, brake lights, horn, rear view mirrors, and a few more items that should already be on most SxS's. When I added everything up, it was around $2500 to make it street legal in Michigan. Other states like Utah, Arizona, and Illinois only require the $200 "street legal kits" you see on ebay which are just horn, blinker and lights.
Is the can am narrow enough to run mi quad trails? That's the main thing I am looking for
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No post shit that makes no sense and I'm the retard?
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Can't run the jeep on quad trails, so I got the urge to get something that I can. That don't make sence to you?
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Wow, here I thought you'd run the jeep on the jeep trails.........since all the places you listed have trails for a jeep. I guess trailering a rzr up there is wayyyyyyyyyyyy different than trailering a Jeep up there........silly me...........
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There are more legal trails for quads and yes trailering would be easier. Hell it will fit in my truck if need be
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DOT approved tires and rims ($1000),
I got a set for our Gator at work and it only cost about $320. Granted they are street tires but I can't imagine a mud tire in the size that would fit a Rzr would be that much. We got white trailer wheels and painted them black.

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Trail Junkie, I would highly recommend an enduro motorcycle to enjoy Michigan's trails. :)
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Trail Junkie, I would highly recommend an enduro motorcycle to enjoy Michigan's trails. :)
Iam a delivery driver, can't risk getting hurt at the moment (says the wife) and my 6 year old goes with me. I would love to get a bike again!
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Trail Junkie, I would highly recommend an enduro motorcycle to enjoy Michigan's trails. :)
Or if you're manly enough go with four wheels... ;)


Seriously, many of the best trails (not routes where a Jeep can legally go, but 50" trails) are tight for a full-size quad. There are many cases where my 48 and change inch wide Polaris Sportsman rubs or requires a 3/4 point turns. I've seen the two-up quads struggle to make turns due to their length. A stock RZR is *slightely" wider and longer. There's also the issue of height with the cage - when off-camber (as many trails are in the turns and twisties) the cage interferes with trees.

So, while I think the RZRs are a pretty cool idea, they'd be pretty limited on many MI trails. There are sections of Rose City, Ogemaw Hills, St Helen (the "back areas" south of I-75), Denton, Geels, Meadows, Frederick, and Bull Gap they wouldn't get through without a lot of beating and banging or maybe not at all with a longarm or wider tires.

If I was younger a SoS-plated dual sport would be the way to go. Otherwise a utility quad (IRS and Cadillac-like padded seat) is the way to go.
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