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Old July 2nd, 2010, 07:30 PM   #1
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WTF is wrong with the Chicago politicians? This is unbelievable.

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CHICAGO The Chicago City Council on Friday approved what city officials say is the strictest handgun ordinance in the United States.

The 45-0 vote came four days after a Supreme Court ruling made it almost certain that Chicago's handgun ban would be overturned. The high court ruled Americans have a right to own a gun for self-defense anywhere they live.

The new city ordinance bans gun shops in Chicago and prohibits gun owners from stepping outside their homes, even onto their porches or garages, with a handgun. It will take effect in 10 days.

The ordinance also:

Limits the number of handguns residents can register to one per month and prohibit residents from having more than one handgun in operating order at any given time.

Requires residents in homes with children to keep them in lock boxes or equipped with trigger locks.

Requires prospective gun owners to take a four-hour class and one-hour training at a gun range. They would have to leave the city for training because Chicago prohibits new gun ranges and limits the use of existing ranges to police officers. Those restrictions were similar to those in an ordinance passed in Washington, D.C., after the high court struck down its ban two years ago.

Prohibits people from owning a gun if they were convicted of a violent crime, domestic violence or two or more convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Residents convicted of a gun offense would have to register with the police department.

Calls for the police department to maintain a registry of every handgun owner in the city, with the names and addresses to be made available to police officers, firefighters and other emergency responders.

Those who already have handguns in the city which has been illegal since the city's ban was approved 28 years ago would have 90 days to register those weapons, according to the proposed ordinance.

Residents convicted of violating the city's ordinance can face a fine up to $5,000 and be locked up for as long as 90 days for a first offense and a fine of up to $10,000 and as long as six months behind bars for subsequent convictions.

Though Monday's Supreme Court ruling did not specifically strike down Chicago's handgun ban, it ordered a federal appeals court to reconsider its ruling.

Mayor Richard Daley moved quickly to get a new ordinance in place and has indicated that he expects legal challenges to the new restrictions.

Meanwhile, a northwestern Wisconsin prosecutor said he won't prosecute a range of state weapon violations in light of the Supreme Court ruling.

Jackson County District Attorney Gerald R. Fox said in a statement he will no longer prosecute people for carrying uncased or loaded guns in vehicles, carrying concealed weapons, carrying firearms in public buildings or taverns or carrying switchblades and butterfly knives.

Fox said the Supreme Court ruling invalidated Wisconsin's laws against those practices.

Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said Fox is inviting crime into Jackson County and if he won't enforce the state's laws he should be removed from office.
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 07:54 PM   #2
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Just one step closer for the liberals to ban guns for everybody except criminals.
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It's not any worse than DC, and its still a step up from not being able to have a handgun at all. I certanly wouldn't call it "worse than ever".
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Just one step closer for the liberals to ban guns for everybody except criminals.
You do realize that a week ago, one couldn't even possess a handgun in Chicago, right?
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They are setting up a challenge to go to the Supreme Court after the new justice is seated.
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You do realize that a week ago, one couldn't even possess a handgun in Chicago, right?
No I didn't know that.
But I did know that in DC guns are not allowed and they have the largest murder and crime rate in the counrty.
What I do not understand is that the facts show that when the general public are allowed to carry a gun that the crime rate goes down, but the law makers can't or won't see those numbers, why is that?
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best day ever...win for chicago!
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 10:49 PM   #8
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No I didn't know that.
But I did know that in DC guns are not allowed and they have the largest murder and crime rate in the counrty.
What I do not understand is that the facts show that when the general public are allowed to carry a gun that the crime rate goes down, but the law makers can't or won't see those numbers, why is that?
Wrong again. The dc handgun ban was overturned by scotus in 2007.
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Wrong again. The dc handgun ban was overturned by scotus in 2007.
And the crime rate has dropped since then too. In fact the murder rate dropped 25% in the very first year
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And the crime rate has dropped since then too. In fact the murder rate dropped 25% in the very first year
On the other hand, only 800 or so handguns have been registered in DC since the lift of the ban.
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On the other hand, only 800 or so handguns have been registered in DC since the lift of the ban.
800=25% less murders.....8,000 guns=people coming back from the dead?
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They are setting up a challenge to go to the Supreme Court after the new justice is seated.
That doesn't matter. John Paul Stevens (the justice that is retiring) is a left leaning judge. He will simply be replaced by another left leaning judge. This will not alter any votes on guns in the supreme court.
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only a matter of time now...
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only a matter of time now...
until . . . ???
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Until that radical left wing lunatic activist buddy of BHO is confirmed for the SCOTUS
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none of that matters because the criminals still have guns....
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none of that matters because the criminals still have guns....
As long as I get to keep mine, criminals with guns fails to bother me (since DC is prime example that the most restrictive gun laws have virtually zero impact on the criminals ability to obtain firearms). In fact, I suppose if Chicago style legislation got passed here then that would make me a criminal.
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As long as I get to keep mine, criminals with guns fails to bother me (since DC is prime example that the most restrictive gun laws have virtually zero impact on the criminals ability to obtain firearms). In fact, I suppose if Chicago style legislation got passed here then that would make me a criminal.
if you live in ortonville you are a criminal...or a meth head but thats still a criminal
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if you live in ortonville you are a criminal...or a meth head but thats still a criminal
your thinking of Otisville
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