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Old May 9th, 2010, 09:13 PM   #1
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Default Michigan lawmaker plans Arizona-like immigration bill

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Rep. Kim Meltzer, R-Clinton Township, said her bill would allow police to request proof of citizenship from people who are stopped and questioned on another offense, such as a traffic violation or selling fraudulent identity documents. Officers would have the authority to arrest people who can't prove their legal status.
"We have borders in place for a reason," Meltzer said. "Everyone should play by the rules."
Meltzer, who's a candidate for state Senate in the August primary election, said racial profiling -- a key fear among opponents of Arizona's law -- would not be tolerated. She said a driver's license would be reasonable proof that a person was legally living in the U.S.

Polls show 100% of illegal aliens are against it.

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Old May 9th, 2010, 09:26 PM   #2
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They should have a law like this in every state.
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awesome. I'm all for it.
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Those darn Canadians must be aggravating her.
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Those darn Canadians must be aggravating her.
I know one in this state that's chapping my ass!
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I know one in this state that's chapping my ass!
Let me guess, are her initials Granholm?
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While I'm all for getting rid of all these illegals --and welfare rats-- I am a bit concerned about moving towards communist russia where you have to have "your papers" with you at all times.

Course I guess if you dont have a drivers license or state id--that means you dont have to cash checks or do any banking--which means you dont have a job--sooooooo
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While I'm all for getting rid of all these illegals --and welfare rats-- I am a bit concerned about moving towards communist russia where you have to have "your papers" with you at all times.

Course I guess if you dont have a drivers license or state id--that means you dont have to cash checks or do any banking--which means you dont have a job--sooooooo
You have to show ID for all kinds of things now . What's the difference?
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While I'm all for getting rid of all these illegals --and welfare rats-- I am a bit concerned about moving towards communist russia where you have to have "your papers" with you at all times.
You do know NCIC/LIEN can verify you with just a last name and DoB? Including physical description (hgt, wht, hair, eyes).
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Yes please.


Can we adopt Arizona's carry laws too?
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Without a photo id to confirm that how ya gonna know--I mean I know my brothers info--and we have same physical description.

Just dont think people who are jaywalking or dont have their seatbelt on--"who cant prove their legal status" should be carted off to jail.

Again just playing devils advocate here--I dont believe in welfare or the myriad of public programs we have.

I also believe if 100 russians a day were streaming over the bering strait there would be people screamin for the military to be sent up there to shoot them---just dont like the slope upon which we are treading.

Enforce the laws on the books--and set up a zone like they have between north and south korea--and defend it.
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You have to show ID for all kinds of things now . What's the difference?

Cause I'm a freakin American--my rights shouldnt be narrowed because these people are invading my country!!

We are the only country in the world that wont defend its own borders! Russians shot down a damn commercial airliner that came into their airspace.

Shoot them while they are invading and real honest to goodness law abiding americans wont have to carry around their "papers"
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Cause I'm a freakin American--my rights shouldnt be narrowed because these people are invading my country!!

We are the only country in the world that wont defend its own borders! Russians shot down a damn commercial airliner that came into their airspace.

Shoot them while they are invading and real honest to goodness law abiding americans wont have to carry around their "papers"
So You would shoot people rather then carry the same ID you have to now? I can sure tell your from the UP

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Without a photo id to confirm that how ya gonna know--I mean I know my brothers info--and we have same physical description.

Just dont think people who are jaywalking or dont have their seatbelt on--"who cant prove their legal status" should be carted off to jail.

Again just playing devils advocate here--I dont believe in welfare or the myriad of public programs we have.

I also believe if 100 russians a day were streaming over the bering strait there would be people screamin for the military to be sent up there to shoot them---just dont like the slope upon which we are treading.

Enforce the laws on the books--and set up a zone like they have between north and south korea--and defend it.
You would get carted of to jail for that now. Get a seatbelt ticket and don't show Your ID and They will take You to jail till they prove who You are now.
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Without a photo id to confirm that how ya gonna know--I mean I know my brothers info--and we have same physical description.

Just dont think people who are jaywalking or dont have their seatbelt on--"who cant prove their legal status" should be carted off to jail.

Again just playing devils advocate here--I dont believe in welfare or the myriad of public programs we have.

I also believe if 100 russians a day were streaming over the bering strait there would be people screamin for the military to be sent up there to shoot them---just dont like the slope upon which we are treading.

Enforce the laws on the books--and set up a zone like they have between north and south korea--and defend it.
Someone has to un-shackle the hands of the Police and ICE .... About time someone grew a pair !!!!
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So You would shoot people rather then carry the same ID you have to now? I can sure tell your from the UP
Correct me if I'm wrong but when others invade your country--yours has a right to defend itself. The president of mexico actually once told his people to go to the US illegally. Why is it ok because they are mexicans?? Again if the russian leader suggested his people go to the states and 100's of them started coming over you would say--well lets make people carry ID--yeah ID cant be faked--shit half the illegals here have Social Security cards with fake numbers.

No you guys are right--take rights away from true americans to solve the problem---Sieg Heil
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Hey I got a better idea--why not just tattoo bar codes on all legal US citizens at birth--then they could just be scanned where ever you go.

Might as well take DNA when your applying the tat--never know but you might need that to confirm who someone really is.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but when others invade your country--yours has a right to defend itself. The president of mexico actually once told his people to go to the US illegally. Why is it ok because they are mexicans?? Again if the russian leader suggested his people go to the states and 100's of them started coming over you would say--well lets make people carry ID--yeah ID cant be faked--shit half the illegals here have Social Security cards with fake numbers.

No you guys are right--take rights away from true americans to solve the problem---Sieg Heil
You don't have the right to not carry ID now . So what would change?

That and I wouldn't call it invading they are more like trespassing. They arn't taking us by force.
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That and I wouldn't call it invading they are more like trespassing. They arn't taking us by force.[/QUOTE]


• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown tically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.


Nope no force--just trespassers

Arizona is passing these laws due to the violent nature of people--not cause they are taking the lawn cutting jobs.

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That and I wouldn't call it invading they are more like trespassing. They arn't taking us by force.

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown tically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.


Nope no force--just trespassers[/QUOTE]

I'm sure You have to worry about that in the UP. this law is in MI. not cali (Michigan lawmaker plans Arizona-like immigration bill)

I see You still have nothing to say about the fact they said the ID you have to carry is the same one you have to carry on You now.
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