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Old April 19th, 2010, 06:18 PM   #21
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id recomend the LQ4 6.0L for pulling, its a tq monster for a gasser and gets good mpg. Dads good friend just got his '09 silverado and pulls like a monster!

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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #22
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I'd like a diesel but we'll see if I can find one when the time is right. I'm finding all kids of trucks out there it's just a matter of narrowing it down. Right now I'm leaning towards these types of trucks. Not necessarily these exact ones. These are just ones I'm watching to get an idea of what they are bidding up to.

- 2500 with a 6.0 in it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230463106370&viewitem= &sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

This one's ginormous Crew, long bed...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT


- Dodge Mega Cab
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT


- Ford F-250 like these (I'd really rather have the crew cab though...)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT


- 1500 avalanche
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

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Old April 20th, 2010, 06:56 AM   #23
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if you don't mind a dodge you should check out 06+ 1500 hemi's with 3.92 gears. I really like the way mine pulls for a half ton truck. mine averages 15-16mpg regular driving, and 18 going 70 on the highway with fat AT tires. (it got 20mpg easy with the stock street tires) i get 13mpg pulling and xj from jackson to the mounds and back at 65 with minimal down shifting in tow haul mode. will not down shift at all when locked in o/d off. you can set the cruse at 70 in o/d off mode and not have to worry about shifting but then it gets 10mpg pulling the jeep. pulls my toy hauler camper getting about the same mileage around 60-55 but drops to 8 trying to go 70-75. it pulls better than a 5.4 ford but i don't know about a 6.0 chevy. the only one i have driven is our 2000 1 ton flat bed at work that has the 6.0. that truck is a turd even with the 4.88 or 5.11 gears. (turns 2500 rpm going 70 so it has to be one of those).
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Old April 20th, 2010, 09:22 AM   #24
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if you don't mind a dodge you should check out 06+ 1500 hemi's with 3.92 gears. I really like the way mine pulls for a half ton truck. mine averages 15-16mpg regular driving, and 18 going 70 on the highway with fat AT tires. (it got 20mpg easy with the stock street tires) i get 13mpg pulling and xj from jackson to the mounds and back at 65 with minimal down shifting in tow haul mode. will not down shift at all when locked in o/d off. you can set the cruse at 70 in o/d off mode and not have to worry about shifting but then it gets 10mpg pulling the jeep. pulls my toy hauler camper getting about the same mileage around 60-55 but drops to 8 trying to go 70-75. it pulls better than a 5.4 ford but i don't know about a 6.0 chevy. the only one i have driven is our 2000 1 ton flat bed at work that has the 6.0. that truck is a turd even with the 4.88 or 5.11 gears. (turns 2500 rpm going 70 so it has to be one of those).


The mega cab 1500's were also straight axles and had a towing capacity of like 300-500 less then the 2500. I'm not sure on the gears though. I believe they were the same as the 2500 with slightly softer springs in the rear. My friend has an 06 2500 mega cab with 4.10 gears and gets about 11-12 driving around and 9-10 towing. He might see 14 with a strong tail wind.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:12 PM   #25
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for a gasser hell ya it does!

he is an older guy but hes not bitching about 23mpg avg mixed driving

crew cab 1 ton 09'
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:22 PM   #26
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for a gasser hell ya it does!

he is an older guy but hes not bitching about 23mpg avg mixed driving

crew cab 1 ton 09'

That defies the laws of physics. 2 mode hybrid tahoes with 5.3L's barely get that mileage.

For that vehicle 18 is a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG stretch.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #27
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That defies the laws of physics. 2 mode hybrid tahoes with 5.3L's barely get that mileage.

For that vehicle 18 is a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG stretch.
2-mode hybrid has the 6.0. It stickers at 21/21 mpg. It could get 23 if you really monitor your speed and maximize the AFM.

I agree, a non-hybrid 6.0 would struggle to consistently hit those numbers. Maybe a short trip down hill with a tail wind.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:29 PM   #28
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That defies the laws of physics. 2 mode hybrid tahoes with 5.3L's barely get that mileage.

For that vehicle 18 is a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG stretch.
damn ill have to get a pic of his dash?


he drives highways all day and short city road to home. sets cruise at 60.................................
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:37 PM   #29
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damn ill have to get a pic of his dash?

I can get you a picture of 99mpg if you'd like, it doesnt mean I'm getting it.

Hand calculated at each fill up is the only reliable way to figure actual mileage.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:40 PM   #30
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for a gasser hell ya it does!

he is an older guy but hes not bitching about 23mpg avg mixed driving

crew cab 1 ton 09'
he pull it on a tow bar behind a pre-07 diesel?
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Old April 20th, 2010, 10:57 PM   #31
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screw it ill jump on all your bandwagons.....GRRRRRR OMG! IT GETS LIKE 10MPG
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Old April 21st, 2010, 05:19 AM   #32
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I can get you a picture of 99mpg if you'd like, it doesnt mean I'm getting it.

Hand calculated at each fill up is the only reliable way to figure actual mileage.
GM must do a poor job at calculating their avg fuel economy,

i've never been in any modern vehicle that was more than .5 mpg off (Actual vs Read out)in any direction.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 08:23 AM   #33
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GM must do a poor job at calculating their avg fuel economy,

i've never been in any modern vehicle that was more than .5 mpg off (Actual vs Read out)in any direction.
You are anti modern vehicle, have you driven one enough to actually be able to hand check the monitoring system?

My point is; just because the instant or average economy says 20 mpg, doesnt mean it's going to work out that way by hand.

I've driven my trailblazer as carefully as possible and never gotten more than 19 mpg. That was no more than 2k rpm and no faster than 50 mph with half a dozen stops in 30 miles. 4 more mpg from a vehicle with 50% more mass and more wind drag isnt going to happen whether the monitoring system says so or not.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 11:44 AM   #34
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I owned a 1995 1/2 ton chevy loved the truck bought it new towed great no problems, bought a 2000 1/2 5.3L ton new thinking it would handle the same types of load as my 1995, WRONG! womans truck, sold my 2000 1/2 ton and bought a new 2004 GMC 3/4 ton 6.0L, love it, the truck has 70,000 trouble free miles on it.
So from my experiance the old 1/2 ton is the newer 3/4 ton!
Go 3/4 ton and be happy for a long time!
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So from my experiance the old 1/2 ton is the newer 3/4 ton!


Because we all know the payloads have gone down.....
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Old April 21st, 2010, 01:01 PM   #36
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Chevy 1500hd with 6 liter and 4l80e. Mine tows great 6.o has plenty of power and if you have Nelson performance send you a computer with no torque management and there custom tune You will get around 16mpg while not towing and when I tow my mud rail it drops to 13-14 There is a blue 2003 on northern michigan craigslist and in the auto swapper for 12000 and I think it has aro92und 80,000 and topper. There are plenty of 1500hd in the swapper usually gvw is 8600 Which isn't bad for a 4dr half ton.
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Also I have been in two separate trucks with the Vortec maxx and they both get 20mpg highway and that was figured out at the pump. One is a customer of mine and another is a friend that I have been on road trips with.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 02:26 PM   #38
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For around here, I'm quite happy with my 5.4 F150. It tows better in stability, steering, and braking than my old worn out Dodge 2500HD, and really doesn't seem to give up much in power to the V10 in the dodge. The 6 speed auto works well for getting off the line, I usually run 6th gear for flats and 5th for most hills. This is pulling a 'typical' Jeep (either my old TJ on 33s or my CJ8 on 37s) on a typical 16ft flatbed, so around a 6000lb load. 8 ft tall for wind drag. The Ford engine I think runs better low end torque than the 5.3 chevy.

I don't currently use a WD hith and have not felt the need. I have run it up to 80mph, but I prefer to tow at about 65-68. I had a blowout on the right front trailer tire at speed on I-75, no big stability issues getting it off the road.


With new trucks, dodge is really hurting with that ~4.5 speed trans, compared to the real 6 speeds in most of the competition. But in the 03-06 range you are likely looking at, its not a concern.

I would try to stay 5.3, 5.4, or 5.7 for the big three trucks, or bigger, on the engines. I think they will all do fine around here, and just manage your expectations. I don't care if I scrub 5mph on the occasional hill, if I paid $15,000 less for the truck.

Heh, remember, when towing a tandem trailer with a rig on it, you are subject to the 60mph truck speed limit anyway.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 10:21 AM   #39
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You are anti modern vehicle, have you driven one enough to actually be able to hand check the monitoring system?

My point is; just because the instant or average economy says 20 mpg, doesnt mean it's going to work out that way by hand.

I've driven my trailblazer as carefully as possible and never gotten more than 19 mpg. That was no more than 2k rpm and no faster than 50 mph with half a dozen stops in 30 miles. 4 more mpg from a vehicle with 50% more mass and more wind drag isnt going to happen whether the monitoring system says so or not.
Figuring BY HAND the 1992 Suburban I have used to get 20.5 on long trips. After the trans got changed we never got that again though, no better then 17 or so actually. Actual gas mileage is variable on so many factors unless it is outrageous I don't normally call BS.

As far as the original question, I have towed my YJ on a car trailer with my dads 1500 Avalanche 4x4 when the Suburban was down, it has the 5.3 and towed it nicely. If your not towing long distances weekly you would probably be ok.
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Before i gott my cummins i had a 4.6 ford with a 5 speed behind it. Jeep on a flat bed was not a problem, 12 mpg with it to the up and back. but never got better than about 16mpg with it. FWIW
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