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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #1
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Anyone run it? Was thinking about making my big block chevy run on it. it's said to be about 105 octane, but burns faster and you need all steel lines. It's only $2.29 a gallon too
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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:57 PM   #2
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i here it sucks in the cold but works good in the summer.

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my buddy ran a few tanks of it in his 09 f150 thats flex fuel. He said it didnt last as long. Even the computer estimated his mpg at like 2-3mpg less than gas so the price didnt save him any money cuz he went through it faster. You can find gas everywhere but e85 isnt. I would just go with gasoline or propane.
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It would be good in a mud truck but not in a daily driver. Propane doesn't give you as much hp/torque as regular gas does. Thats the draw back i see for propane.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 07:31 AM   #5
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I've done some mileage tests with it. I noticed a 10% reduction in mpg. So, if its at least 10% less expensive, you can come out ahead. This was done over the course of about a month and a half, last year on an 05 chevy suburban.
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It would be good in a mud truck but not in a daily driver. Propane doesn't give you as much hp/torque as regular gas does. Thats the draw back i see for propane.
My power increased with pane due to the inefficiency of carburetion. Power, throttle response, and reliability of pane will make you never use a carb again.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 07:48 AM   #7
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Other thing people never do is up their compression when going to either E85 or pane. With octanes at 105 for E85 and like 110-115 for pane, you can run some serious compression numbers and crank out some real power.
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Other thing people never do is up their compression when going to either E85 or pane. With octanes at 105 for E85 and like 110-115 for pane, you can run some serious compression numbers and crank out some real power.
Yes, compression and timing are your friend.
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You need to run and entirely stainless steel fuel system in the 304 variety or better. (excellent corrosion resistance) You also need to have the ability to deliver more fuel to get the same power output as gas. Depending on your power output, -8 lines wouldnt be out of the question. It's mathematically 70% as efficient as regular unleaded gasoline. What are you going to do when you go wheeling somewhere that isnt 5 miles from an E85 pump?

I'm going to stick with premium.
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You need to run and entirely stainless steel fuel system in the 304 variety or better. (excellent corrosion resistance) You also need to have the ability to deliver more fuel to get the same power output as gas. Depending on your power output, -8 lines wouldnt be out of the question. It's mathematically 70% as efficient as regular unleaded gasoline. What are you going to do when you go wheeling somewhere that isnt 5 miles from an E85 pump?

I'm going to stick with premium.
That was my first thought.

There are not an abundance of stations in Northern Michigan that have E85. I wouldn't be suprised to find you having to go the next town over in some cases to find it.
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And when you build your engine for it, you have no other option to run something with a super high octane. You cant just add octane booster to unleaded, you can only raise it so many points.
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What kinda compression can you run w/ propane?
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I'm pretty sure Ken from Allpro had his SBC built to run on propane and I remember him saying something like 14.5:1. It should have the powercurve of a diesel.
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My power increased with pane due to the inefficiency of carburetion. Power, throttle response, and reliability of pane will make you never use a carb again.

Also it's good to have a "FRIEND" with a low rider getto wagon around.

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when gas was 4 bucks a gallon i would mix it 50/50 in my 85 buick century with tbi i now have 195000 miles on it and going strong. i will do it again if gas goes that high.
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I've been kicking this idea around as I can run a duel fuel table. Hit a button and the table switches from E85 to unleaded.

However the only time I'd use E85 is while wheeling at Silver Lake or wherever else I may be. I have not seen E85 offered at any of the gas stations locally to the dunes so its not worth the cost to set up the fuel system to handle it.
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