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Old January 24th, 2010, 10:55 PM   #21
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junk a family member has one drivetrain seems fine but a lot of body and wind noise and interior issues. if you got a steal maybe but i didnt care for it much maybe she just got a junker but hey just my .02
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Old January 24th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #22
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Its definitely a cheaper alternative for an AWD car, but it's hideous in person.

My old man is retired from Chrysler and that's all I've ever bought new. But If I were in the market for an awd car, I'd go with a Volvo XC or Subaru.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 04:28 PM   #23
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i want her to get something alone the lines of a ford escape or somthing like that.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 04:52 PM   #24
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Escape > Compass.

Had a few of each as rentals, the compass is subpar in feel- even factoring out the gayness.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 06:15 PM   #25
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How about renting one for a week? It may sound like pissing away cash but it can save you years of bitching after the fact. I hear it frequently of people paying on a vehicle they can't stomach.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 05:53 AM   #26
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i would not consider the compass when looking for a small jeep. the patriot is bigger, more capable, better looking in my opinion, and gets the same fuel mileage as the compass.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 06:12 AM   #27
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I'd get a Subaru.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 06:25 AM   #28
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Escape > Compass.
x2. I have ridden in / drove both.

The compass can't get out of its own way.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 06:29 AM   #29
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as far as looks you have to take into consideration what others opinions are based on. Have they seen the stripped down base model or are they refering to the limited compass. My girl has a limited. With the larger better looking wheels, leather, and body accents it is really sharp and we have had many compliments. Price is nice too.
She gets 25mpg.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 06:36 AM   #30
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As far as the patriot or the compass. Both have basically the same drivetrain and yes the patriot is a touch more roomy in the backseat (i think i measured 6"). The cargo area is the same size with the exception of up by the ceiling due to the more rounded roof design of the compass(from what I remember).

Now, on the trans and power, I was not impressed at first. When I test drove both vehicles off the lot on a curvey road (with the auto trans in slapshift mode to keep it in the power band) the compass drives like a damn sports car with its all wheel ind. susp.
The patriot on the other hand has more of a mini van feel(more utilitarian).

If you are looking for a utility vehicle get the patriot.
If you are looking for a car with variable awd get a compass.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 06:38 AM   #31
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By the way the compass I have kicks ass in the snow. You can hardly spin it out with the traction control. I have never had such a hard time trying to do a donut in a parking lot. That thing is amazing. I feel very confident my girl and my daughter are safe in it.

Its like a little rally car
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Old January 26th, 2010, 08:09 AM   #32
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x2. I have ridden in / drove both.

The compass can't get out of its own way.
You must have been in an auto with the 2.0. They are gutless and can barely get out of their own way. Even the 2.4 with the auto is pretty bad with the snowmobile transmissions they have. When I bought my Patriot I ordered it with the 2.4 and 5spd. With 172hp, it shits and gets.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 08:14 AM   #33
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as far as looks you have to take into consideration what others opinions are based on. Have they seen the stripped down base model or are they refering to the limited compass. My girl has a limited. With the larger better looking wheels, leather, and body accents it is really sharp and we have had many compliments. Price is nice too.
She gets 25mpg.
IMO 25mpg for a car that small is terrible. I averaged 25mpg in my old 2006 Chevy Impala.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 08:16 AM   #34
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[QUOTE=93trackaddict;2059650]
Now, on the trans and power, I was not impressed at first. When I test drove both vehicles off the lot on a curvey road (with the auto trans in slapshift mode to keep it in the power band) the compass drives like a damn sports car with its all wheel ind. susp.
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The auto transmissions they come with don't have any gears to slap shift, it is a Continuosly Variable Transmission
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Old January 26th, 2010, 11:04 AM   #35
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Now, on the trans and power, I was not impressed at first. When I test drove both vehicles off the lot on a curvey road (with the auto trans in slapshift mode to keep it in the power band) the compass drives like a damn sports car with its all wheel ind. susp.
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The auto transmissions they come with don't have any gears to slap shift, it is a Continuosly Variable Transmission


The CVT does have auto-stick. Either that or mine was a figment of my imagination. Sorry addicted, but you are wrong. (you are right that it does not have gears, but wrong that is does not have selectable shifting)


Ours was my wifes main vehicle in 2007. Compass Limited 4x2. Had the 2.4l.
It had a good amount of room, front and rear. I am 6'2" and opur son is 6'4". We never had an issue sitting in the front or back.
Good amount of cargo room for the size vehicle.
The CVT in regular mode was a bit of a dog and I agree, couldn't get out of it's own way. But that kept the fuel econmy in the mid to upper 20's. Not great, but good enough for us (coming from lower mileage Jeeps).

When using the Autostick, it did handle very well. It felt solid on paved or dirt/mud surfaces even with just FWD. You can hold the "gears" (power band) for optimum acceleration.

It was a comfortable and fun car to drive. It does sit a couple of inches higher than the Caliber, at least the seat does.

All in all we found it do be a decent vehicle for its size and what it was intended for.

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Old January 26th, 2010, 11:12 AM   #36
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[QUOTE=PeteC;2060161]The CVT does have auto-stick. Either that or mine was a figment of my imagination. Sorry addicted, but you are wrong. (you are right that it does not have gears, but wrong that is does not have selectable shifting)
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I stand corrected. The 2 or 3 I drove when shopping didn't have it. i don't understand how it would work, but hey, we can't be right all of the time. i even did some research to verify my thoughts before posting.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 11:18 AM   #37
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I seem to remember that at one time not all CVT's had the autostick. I know it was on the Limited.

I took a quick look at the Jeep site just now. All Auto's are the CVT II and they all have the auto stick feature. So, if you get a Compass with the CVT it will have autostick.

Like I said, I don't remember what the options were in the first couple of model years. If you drove an older one, you may well have driven one with a CVT without autostick.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 11:23 AM   #38
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[quote=addicted;2060183][QUOTE=PeteC;2060161]The CVT does have auto-stick. Either that or mine was a figment of my imagination. Sorry addicted, but you are wrong. (you are right that it does not have gears, but wrong that is does not have selectable shifting)
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I stand corrected. The 2 or 3 I drove when shopping didn't have it. i don't understand how it would work, but hey, we can't be right all of the time. i even did some research to verify my thoughts before posting.
Probably the same way the 2 overdrives work on my 545RFE trans.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 12:57 PM   #39
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The CVT does have auto-stick. Either that or mine was a figment of my imagination. Sorry addicted, but you are wrong. (you are right that it does not have gears, but wrong that is does not have selectable shifting)


Probably the same way the 2 overdrives work on my 545RFE trans.
haha, the ratios on the 545rfe are kind of a joke. I drive one too
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Old January 26th, 2010, 01:07 PM   #40
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haha, the ratios on the 545rfe are kind of a joke. I drive one too
Yeah, I think that's what really holds dodge back in the towing game vs. Ford and GM.
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