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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:08 PM   #1
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Default Road salt costs 40% more this year???

Just heard on Channel 7 news that road commissions are trying to conserve salt since it costs 40% more this year. WTF??? How can this be when Detroit sits on top of a fucking salt mine? Anyone...anyone...
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:11 PM   #2
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WE at work take rock salt, make a brine solution and then spray the salt in the hopper as it goes down the shoot. Salt savings of about 30 percent in usage. Many local communities are looking at it this way.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:14 PM   #3
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sand is cheap!
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:16 PM   #4
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Sand FTW!!!!!
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:16 PM   #5
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Now where in Michigan would anyone find sand?
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:18 PM   #6
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Silver Lake? Mev Agina?
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:22 PM   #7
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Sand doesn't ruin vehicles like salt does. The big 3 would have been out of business a few decades ago if we used sand.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:23 PM   #8
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How about a sand and salt mix
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:27 PM   #9
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:27 PM   #10
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No way guys!!! Salts high in price so you put so much down that the roads are white for a week after the snow falls. Or you have two county trucks fallowing each other. The first one throwing salt down and the second one plowing it off. Then bitch about the price. LOL
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Wouldn't sand not melt, which would be more of a pain to clean up? I think yeah the snow would be gone but the roads would turn into sand dunes theoretically, unless it washes away in the storm drains.
I don't know crap about this so I'm just guessing.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:39 PM   #12
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hahaha EVERYWHERE!!
Yup, There has been 19 sets of doubles hauling 24 hours a day for 2 years during the summer (The state cut them to 12 hours this fall) from ludington state park area to muskegon, Selling it to Texas oil companys for plugging wells. So I was told? What about all the harbor dredgings?
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #13
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yup, so true. salt is the only culprit in the death of many toyotas.
if you it one more time you might believe it
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Old January 7th, 2010, 06:50 PM   #14
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Sand cost about $500-600 dollars per ton from start to finish, don't forget the spring clean up. Sand ends up in the catch basins , downtown areas etc.
I went to a snow plow convention in Frankemuth about salt control, sanding and anything about snow plowing
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Old January 7th, 2010, 08:33 PM   #15
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I think they are full of shit, bulk salt is right around where it was last year, and bagged is actually cheaper than it was this time last year
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Old January 7th, 2010, 08:38 PM   #16
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they use sand up in west branch by my gramps in some areas like around his neighbor hood and some private roads. In the spring i didn't notice any problems and the sand made a good gritty surface and gave better traction.
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Old January 7th, 2010, 08:49 PM   #17
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People down here are pussy's when it snows anyways. They could save a ton of money if they just waited to plow once it was all down and tossed some sand down or LIGHTLY salted. None of these heaping mounds you always see and crap like that.

Instead the plow every hour and dump salt like its free everywhere.
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waiting to plow until the snow stops falling is just a bad idea...people are still going to drive on the road, and that melts the snow, which re-freezes into ice...Shiawassee county does that alot, and it makes the roads alot worse then if they were to even make an attempt to clear them.

dont they say every year that the price of salt is XX% higher? seems like they do it just to give people a reason as to why they arent putting down more, especially when you consider how much salt is under almost all of Michigan...

X2 on using sand, though I dont know what the cleanup would consist of...always been curious what the salt does, as well. Seems like it would soak into the ground and kill vegitaion, which would be a huge problem for farmers.
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90% of people travel do it unneeded anyways. Like...omfg it's going to snow two inches, better stock the house! type stuff. It's just snow, it'll melt in a few days most likely anyways. If you absolutely need to go some place (which most of the time these people dont), own a 4wd and take your time. Otherwise, chill the hell out and relax at home with your family and enjoy the peace and quiet.
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Yup, There has been 19 sets of doubles hauling 24 hours a day for 2 years during the summer (The state cut them to 12 hours this fall) from ludington state park area to muskegon, Selling it to Texas oil companys for plugging wells. So I was told? What about all the harbor dredgings?
From what i was told it is used for pumping down the wells and forcing the oil out. Who knows.
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