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Old December 24th, 2009, 05:23 PM   #1
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My brother sold another truck (he goes through vehicals like i change my underwear (once every two months or so)) and is looking to get some sort of car because he is going away to school and needs a gas saver. He has been looking at Audis but no one in my family has ever owned a foriegn car. does anyone have any insight on these cars? i have no opinion as of yet except they look kinda cool.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 05:27 PM   #2
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audi's are the same as VW. excellent cars.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 05:30 PM   #3
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Audi's are good cars IMO. Besides all of the obvious things to look for when buy a used car, one thing I would do is find out the history of the car. Like who previously owned it before. I would make it wasn't owned by some high school kid or something like that, who would have most likely beat on it pretty good. (like doing Awd launches at redline)
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They're nice quality cars if they've been properly taken care of. My uncle had a 2001ish A4 Quattro with a 5 speed 2.8L V6 (non-turbo). Nice quick, quiet and comfortable car. Would I touch one with over 100k on it? Only if I saw meticulous maintenance records. They're no different with Mercedes / BMW / etc. when it comes to repairs. Make sure you have some deep pockets if you have to do some big repair.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 05:47 PM   #5
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from my experience there good for someone who doesn't work on there own cars. i worked on a couple and man what a pain in the ass to do simple stuff. i had to do a driver side axle on a quattro last week and all 6 10 point star bolts stripped requiring me to use an easy out to remove, then trying to buy the correct axle was a PITA since they used 2 different automatics which had 2 different length axle shafts. the final problem i have with just about all foreign cars is the parts are twice as expensive as a comparable part for a domestic car. example. CV axle shaft for my S-10 65 bucks. cv shaft for that audi i worked on was about 130. another example is a TPS for my blazer is 35 bucks where the one for an audi is 100.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #6
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Early 2000 A4's are very nice cars for the price. Several friends have owned them. I would say that they are on the expensive side to repair, if something big craps out on you.

A buddy of mine has a 98 A4 that he bought for about 4 grand, and has probably put about another 3k into engine work. (Granted, it has over 200k on the odometer)

On a better note, I would buy one in a heartbeat.
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I've always been a fan of them, but my mechanic buddy (Mercedes master cert.) says they are the worst cars work on. Same thing that Kodiak said. Lots of stuff that shouldn't be a pain, is.
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clearly haven't owned many VWs
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Old December 24th, 2009, 07:18 PM   #9
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My uncle had one for forever. A3 I think. Was going to buy it from him but it overheated (150,000 on the clock) so he traded it in on another one.
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The B5 A4 is a great car, They came with a 2.8 V6 or a 1.8t 4cyl.

Every 75-100k miles the Timing Belt, Water Pump, Belt Tensioner, CV's, Balljoints and Control arms should be changed. But thats the only major maintenance your going to be looking at.
Granted it is about $2500-3500 in work and parts, but then you should be set for another 75-100k miles without fault.

And with the right instructions, I find my VW very easy to work on.
I replaced the passenger side window in less than an hour without any special tools.

Oh and my 1.8t Jetta is currently at 156k miles and hasnt let me down once over the 13k miles that it has acquired since it was purchased in March.
As long as VW/Audi's are maintained by a competent mechanic they will last forever.
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My buddy just got an S4. Nice car, but VERY expensive for maintenance and to do anything else to them.
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clearly haven't owned many VWs
7 and counting. Has very minor issues out of any of them. some with as low as 60k some with as high as 200k. taking care of your vehicle and maintence help out tremendously.
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Besides the expense, parts are not usually stocked at Murray's/Pep Boys/Autozone.

I usually have to go to S&G for parts for my Benz.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 09:55 PM   #14
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7 and counting. Has very minor issues out of any of them. some with as low as 60k some with as high as 200k. taking care of your vehicle and maintence help out tremendously.

Maintenance can't help out with any of the numerous electrical issues many models and years faced. Unless by maintenance you mean fixing all the non working stuff and then it not working again a few months later.
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the only experience I had with owning an Audi was my 86 Audi 5000s..........inline 5 cylinder, front wheel drive car......thermos stat $20.......Plugs and wires $110.....trade in for my XJ $1500........guess which route I took











On another note......I really want the R8
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Maintenance can't help out with any of the numerous electrical issues many models and years faced. Unless by maintenance you mean fixing all the non working stuff and then it not working again a few months later.
Never had any of those issues. a few people i know have had Vws for years, never really had issues as well.
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My buddy just got an S4. Nice car, but VERY expensive for maintenance and to do anything else to them.
S4's, especially the B5 (00-02) are the biggest money pit you can buy in the VAG world. They are insane cars, Performance and maintenance wise.
Stock 250hp would get you to 0-60 in 5 seconds, a $500 chip/tune unlocks another 50 or so HP and really livens it up. Turbos are 1k a piece (Twin Turbo) and they are mounted between the trans and the body, so you need to pull the trans to replace them.


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Maintenance can't help out with any of the numerous electrical issues many models and years faced. Unless by maintenance you mean fixing all the non working stuff and then it not working again a few months later.
The only electrical issue I have EVER had with a VW was when my old Syncro Vanagon wouldnt start. But considering it had been through an engine fire, 236k miles, and sat in a barn for 10 years... so I wont blame VW's shoddy engineering on the wiring problem.

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S4's, especially the B5 (00-02) are the biggest money pit you can buy in the VAG world. They are insane cars, Performance and maintenance wise.
Stock 250hp would get you to 0-60 in 5 seconds, a $500 chip/tune unlocks another 50 or so HP and really livens it up. Turbos are 1k a piece (Twin Turbo) and they are mounted between the trans and the body, so you need to pull the trans to replace them.
Yea it's a money pit. We all keep trying to talk him into selling it for something domestic and cheaper so we don't have to listen to him bitch.
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I'm an Audi tech and to start off VW is not the same as Audi I don't care what people have to say. Every VW i have worked on is a chinsy pos compared to the Audi counterpart. If he is going to school I really don't recommend an Audi unless he has plenty of cash saved up for repairs. Repairs are very pricey even if he does them him self and then if he does them himself for the most part they are not easy. Way up here in the tip of the mitt our going rate on working on them is 85 an hour so its not cheap to get them worked on in a shop either.
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I'm an Audi tech and to start off VW is not the same as Audi I don't care what people have to say. Every VW i have worked on is a chinsy pos compared to the Audi counterpart. If he is going to school I really don't recommend an Audi unless he has plenty of cash saved up for repairs. Repairs are very pricey even if he does them him self and then if he does them himself for the most part they are not easy. Way up here in the tip of the mitt our going rate on working on them is 85 an hour so its not cheap to get them worked on in a shop either.
so VW motors and transmission's arent identical to the Audi counterparts?
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