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Old December 20th, 2009, 12:25 AM   #61
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Old December 20th, 2009, 12:34 AM   #62
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Old December 20th, 2009, 12:43 AM   #63
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[QUOTE=L4CX;1999665]Huh, I never heard him say he goes for his Gun first thing. Actually, if you knew anything about a CPL, you would know that it's taught as the last Resort. It actually says alot to his ability to control his self (and any other CPL person) to carry a gun. Do you think Cops are Cowards? They carry Guns.

true.however no matter what is taught some people are still in the mindframe of I GOT MY GUN dont mess with me or ill shoot your ass

that being said michigan has some messed up rules and it is only getting worse.....pretty soon you wont be able to have a gun if you have has a speeding ticket or picked your nose in first grade........
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Old December 20th, 2009, 07:25 AM   #64
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I'm an incredible pussy in real life, yet, I don't carry a gun.
your either a badass or your not afraid of a whoopin', you spray people with water that are walking on the sidewalk, then you stop and yell at them.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 08:12 AM   #65
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you can get one of these but talk to the lawyer 1st

muzzleloader are not a gun per sal per law.. in Michigan

A muzzleloader may or may not be a firearm under federal law, however under Michigan law it is. Thus certain felons may not possess them.

750.222 Definitions.

(d) “Firearm” means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 08:14 AM   #66
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Old December 20th, 2009, 08:21 AM   #67
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your either a badass or your not afraid of a whoopin', you spray people with water that are walking on the sidewalk, then you stop and yell at them.
Raindrops scare me.

Edit: Hahahahaha.....I forgot about the wiener dog incident.

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Old December 20th, 2009, 08:25 AM   #68
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I was not defending myself. I beat the shit out of a pussy who was sexually harassing my girlfriend in a workplace, as her boss. I was young, and would not repeat this mistake. I am in contact with a lawyer, and can ask for whatever opinion I choose to in a pub forum.
Yea this says to me that you've done alot of growing up and maturing in the last couple of years. If you cant win over a bunch of 4x4 nuts that are pre disposed to enjoying firearms and their widespread use, do you think that attitude and language will win over law enforcement and a judicial system that thinks you shouldnt have one? Just asking, thats my .02$
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Old December 20th, 2009, 02:14 PM   #69
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[quote=RockyMTN05;1999846]Just when I didn't think anyone could possibly be more of an uneducated moron than the original poster, you have proved me wrong.

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Tell your friend to go fukc himself. I would, but I'm afraid he might beat me up, or pull out an illegal firearm. I, however, will be carrying my legal gun, felony free, with my permit.
Your qoute not mine. I some how doubt in my uneducated mind that you actually carry a weapon.
Kinda get the feeling your internet wheeling and internet Dirty Harry gun carrying, go hand and hand.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 02:38 PM   #70
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Santa is gonna drop by you guys' house this year.

therefore this thread is full of lose.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 02:55 PM   #71
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unfortunately the people calling him a pussy for standing up for his woman are what todays society is turning out as "men". fucking walking vaginas in my opinion. any male who doesn't have the balls to get physical to defend his woman, family member or friend, for whatever reason, be it bodily harm or jail time is a fucking pussy.

i've had my ass beat defending someone, and would do it again. i've had friends put their personal safety second to defend me and respect them for it. some of the guys on this site need to grow a pair. the guy that got his ass beat for harassing the girl probably thought twice the next time he felt like treating a lady like that. also, if you carry a gun because your afraid of an ass whoopin', you need to turn in your man card.
x2 on the defending a female. Wasn't there a time when a man was called a coward if he did not defined a woman? Today it seems most would watch a woman get her ass beat by her husband/boyfriend and only call the cops so they "don't have to get involved". Just seems to me we are becoming more pacifists every generation.

Don't know what happened in this case so I won't comment on it. He may have been right he could have been wrong, would need the details to decide.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 03:18 PM   #72
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x2 on the defending a female. Wasn't there a time when a man was called a coward if he did not defined a woman? Today it seems most would watch a woman get her ass beat by her husband/boyfriend and only call the cops so they "don't have to get involved". Just seems to me we are becoming more pacifists every generation.

Don't know what happened in this case so I won't comment on it. He may have been right he could have been wrong, would need the details to decide.
I've been in alot of fights when I was young and never got a felony. there is more to this than beating some guy up.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 03:22 PM   #73
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x2 on the defending a female. Wasn't there a time when a man was called a coward if he did not defined a woman? Today it seems most would watch a woman get her ass beat by her husband/boyfriend and only call the cops so they "don't have to get involved". Just seems to me we are becoming more pacifists every generation. thank the liberal left, and attorney lobby for that one - getting one's ass beat is the least of concerns in today's world.

Don't know what happened in this case so I won't comment on it.
looks like you did comment on it...

He may have been right he could have been wrong, would need the details to decide.
literally watching someone get beat, vs. hearing 2nd hand from someone about harassment that refuses to do something legal about it are two different things.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 07:41 AM   #74
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I've been in alot of fights when I was young and never got a felony. there is more to this than beating some guy up.
Depends on the beating. Say you're beating down an idiot that won't keep his mouth shut during the lesson. Say said idiot keeps running his mouth about what he did and that nothing you do to him can change that.
Say you stop using your fists and start getting creative with a pickup truck door to permanently disfigure that person?

Hypothetically.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 11:03 AM   #75
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I've been in alot of fights when I was young and never got a felony. there is more to this than beating some guy up.
Why do you have a Member of the Foot wearing Tigers Aparel as your Avatar? Think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

And I agree.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 11:09 AM   #76
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I've been in alot of fights when I was young and never got a felony. there is more to this than beating some guy up.
The mistake was doing it in his workplace. Cameras everywhere
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Old December 21st, 2009, 11:12 AM   #77
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Why do you have a Member of the Foot wearing Tigers Aparel as your Avatar? Think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

And I agree.
Just got sick of the clowns. thats a pic of esham.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 11:42 AM   #78
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If a felon has procession of a firearm or even ammo, it is a federal offense and it will be prosecuted by the feds. I saw a shit ton of this crap in my 19 months of Grand Jury duty. You can not own a firearm, well unless you get the secretary of the state to overturn your ruling from an appeal request. Good luck with that.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 11:53 AM   #79
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A muzzleloader may or may not be a firearm under federal law, however under Michigan law it is. Thus certain felons may not possess them.

750.222 Definitions.

(d) “Firearm” means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BB's not exceeding .177 caliber.
Well i just say wait for laser weapons then.





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750.224f Possession of firearm by person convicted of felony; circumstances; penalty; applicability of section to expunged or set aside conviction; “felony” and “specified felony” defined.

Sec. 224f.

(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person convicted of a felony shall not possess, use, transport, sell, purchase, carry, ship, receive, or distribute a firearm in this state until the expiration of 3 years after all of the following circumstances exist:

(a) The person has paid all fines imposed for the violation.

(b) The person has served all terms of imprisonment imposed for the violation.

(c) The person has successfully completed all conditions of probation or parole imposed for the violation.

(2) A person convicted of a specified felony shall not possess, use, transport, sell, purchase, carry, ship, receive, or distribute a firearm in this state until all of the following circumstances exist:

(a) The expiration of 5 years after all of the following circumstances exist:

(i) The person has paid all fines imposed for the violation.

(ii) The person has served all terms of imprisonment imposed for the violation.

(iii) The person has successfully completed all conditions of probation or parole imposed for the violation.

(b) The person's right to possess, use, transport, sell, purchase, carry, ship, receive, or distribute a firearm has been restored pursuant to section 4 of Act No. 372 of the Public Acts of 1927, being section 28.424 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.

(3) A person who possesses, uses, transports, sells, purchases, carries, ships, receives, or distributes a firearm in violation of this section is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both.

(4) This section does not apply to a conviction that has been expunged or set aside, or for which the person has been pardoned, unless the expunction, order, or pardon expressly provides that the person shall not possess a firearm.

(5) As used in this section, “felony” means a violation of a law of this state, or of another state, or of the United States that is punishable by imprisonment for 4 years or more, or an attempt to violate such a law.

(6) As used in subsection (2), “specified felony” means a felony in which 1 or more of the following circumstances exist:

(i) An element of that felony is the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the person or property of another, or that by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense.

(ii) An element of that felony is the unlawful manufacture, possession, importation, exportation, distribution, or dispensing of a controlled substance.

(iii) An element of that felony is the unlawful possession or distribution of a firearm.

(iv) An element of that felony is the unlawful use of an explosive.

(v) The felony is burglary of an occupied dwelling, or breaking and entering an occupied dwelling, or arson.




28.424 Restoration of rights by concealed weapons licensing board; application; fee; determination; circumstances; judicial review.

Sec. 4.

(1) A person who is prohibited from possessing, using, transporting, selling, purchasing, carrying, shipping, receiving, or distributing a firearm under section 224f(2) of the Michigan penal code, Act No. 328 of the Public Acts of 1931, being section 750.224f of the Michigan Compiled Laws, may apply to the concealed weapons licensing board in the county in which he or she resides for restoration of those rights.

(2) Not more than 1 application may be submitted under subsection (1) in any calendar year. The concealed weapons licensing board may charge a fee of not more than $10.00 for the actual and necessary expenses of each application.

(3) The concealed weapons licensing board shall, by written order of the board, restore the rights of a person to possess, use, transport, sell, purchase, carry, ship, receive, or distribute a firearm if the board determines, by clear and convincing evidence, that all of the following circumstances exist:

(a) The person properly submitted an application for restoration of those rights as provided under this section.

(b) The expiration of 5 years after all of the following circumstances:

(i) The person has paid all fines imposed for the violation resulting in the prohibition.

(ii) The person has served all terms of imprisonment imposed for the violation resulting in the prohibition.

(iii) The person has successfully completed all conditions of probation or parole imposed for the violation resulting in the prohibition.

(c) The person's record and reputation are such that the person is not likely to act in a manner dangerous to the safety of other persons.

(4) If the concealed weapons licensing board pursuant to subsection (3) refuses to restore a right under this section, the person may petition the circuit court for review of that decision.

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