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Old December 16th, 2009, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default Job Seekers : Detroit Edison Taking Applicaitions For Apprentice Lineman Jobs

See http://www.dteenergy.com/dteEnergyCo...archApply.html and then go into "Detroit Edison" jobs and search for "Apprentice Lineman" opening.

Qualifications:

- High School Diploma or GED.
- Physically able to lift and handle 90 pounds.
- Obtain an evaluation of "Recommended" on the Physical Abilities Test (PAT).
- Obtain an evaluation of "Recommended" on the Construction and Skilled Trades test (CAST).

A PRACTICE TEST CAN
BE FOUND ON THE DTE WEBSITE @ WWW.DTEENERGY.COM., CLICK ON CAREERS LINK, CLICK HIRING
PROCESS LINK; CLICK SKILL TESTING LINK.
- Satisfactorily complete Pole Climbing Orientation.
- Must meet Company driving standards. Must possess or obtain prior to transfer date, a Group A Commercial Drivers
License with air brake or a Classified Endorsement Temporary Instruction Permit to operate a Group A vehicle with air
brakes. Canadian citizens must obtain an Ontario Class A license with a Z endorsement for air brakes. Drivers with the
Classified Endorsement Temporary Instruction Permit must obtain a Group A Commercial Drivers License as soon as they
are certified by Employee Training.
- Satisfactory complete physical examination.
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Old December 16th, 2009, 05:07 PM   #2
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out of curiosity, what do those guys pull down for coin?
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It's about $18-20/hour for apprentices and probably $25-$30+ for fully-fledged journeyman linemen. With OT (not hard to do with storms or being sent off on out-of-state storms) $100K+/year is pretty common.

* EDIT * A buddy says Journeymen are around $32/hour and Apprentices start around $19/hr.

It's tough to get into - pole climbing test is not easy.
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Old December 16th, 2009, 05:37 PM   #5
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I think they pull in more than $25 to $30. I am an operator at a power plant for Consumers Energy and I pull in on the high side of that. Linemen are up around $35+. Very stable jobs to have, plus when you go travel to Florida to help with cleanups you will make a fortune.
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I'm too clumsy to be around high voltage. I suspect there is a reason for openings in that field?
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Ha ha...No way could I lift 90lbs.
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Friend mine is a Linesmen in Florida and says with alot of OT he pulls in just under $100,000.00 per year.
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This is one hell of an opportunity for somebody who is looking for a good career. One of the few stable industries left around here. Linemen have a good gig, they really don't work hard until the SHTF. But a lot of their time is spent on down wires, and waiting for something to come up. Once you get the experience and training, you can go anywhere in the world to be a lineman. Union wages, benefits and security too.


DOA, you work at Whiting? I spend a bit of time down there in the switch yard.


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I'm too clumsy to be around high voltage. I suspect there is a reason for openings in that field?
It isn't really the high voltage system, I believe 40kv is the highest that DTE deals with anymore.

*edit* I forgot about some of the 120kv lines that DTE still owns, so there is the occasional 120kv line work, but that is few and far in between anymore for them.

You have to jump ship to ITC to deal with the high voltage stuff now...they own the 120kv, 230kv, and 345kv transmission system....and soon to be 765kv.

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I know up here for Consumers apprentices start out at $21+ an hour because I was doing training through Delta College here... until I cut out and fell 25 feet down the pole and blew my knee out. It's a great job to get into if you can do it.
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they probably won't hire a 40 year old for an apprenticeship will they? :|

I'd love to get in there for GIS work, but they don't pay (or didn't) pay squat for that tract.
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they probably won't hire a 40 year old for an apprenticeship will they? :|

I'd love to get in there for GIS work, but they don't pay (or didn't) pay squat for that tract.
Yup I bet they would.

My uncle started as an apprentice with consumers when he was in his late 30's
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It isn't really the high voltage system, I believe 40kv is the highest that DTE deals with anymore.

So 40kv is not really considered high voltage?
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I'd consider anything enough to kill you 'high voltage'
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what power plant do you work at?
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So 40kv is not really considered high voltage?
Depends on your perspective. I don't work on anything below 120kv, which is considered the high voltage transmission system. 40kv is in the lower voltage sub-transmission system, which I consider low voltage...but that is just my perspective on it. I guess for most electricians, 40kv is insanly high...but for lineman and substation guys, it isn't. Deaner does the same thing that I do, and you can see...he feels the same as I do.
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Depends on your perspective. I don't work on anything below 120kv, which is considered the high voltage transmission system. 40kv is in the lower voltage sub-transmission system, which I consider low voltage...but that is just my perspective on it. I guess for most electricians, 40kv is insanly high...but for lineman and substation guys, it isn't. Deaner does the same thing that I do, and you can see...he feels the same as I do.

But how much liveline work you do? Its mostly deenergized when you work on on it.
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when we actually work on it, it is shut down...we are Operator/Maintenance techs...so we are the guys who shut it down, and work on it. In substations, there is no live work done...no reason for it.

But to shut it down, especially on the old consumers system...we use hot sticks to open 138kv disconnect switches. Almost nothing over there is ganged or mechanically operated, so you have to individually pull open each phase which draws a nice 138,000 volt arc out right above you, and all you have is a pair of gloves and a fiberglass pole.

The energized stuff isn't what you really have to worry about though, it is the induced static on the "dead" equipment from near by energized lines/equipment that will get you. Grounding is the biggest safety concern in our job...we had a guy killed a few years back from static alone.

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I see. Im a Journeymen Linemen. Worked quite a bit of Transmission, sometimes hot. Yes its a great trade to be in!
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