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Old December 4th, 2009, 11:45 PM   #1
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anybody running these shocks or know of anyone that is?

http://www.bigshocks.com/index.htm

i'm going to buy a set of coilovers but have not made a decision on what ones yet and this guy is local (big rapids) and if his shocks are of comparable quality to the mainstream i may go that rout as i prefer to keep my money local.
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Old December 4th, 2009, 11:51 PM   #2
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i'm pretty sure he's a member on here if not i know a guy has a build thread and talked about them. Good looking stuff no doubt.
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Old December 4th, 2009, 11:58 PM   #3
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they look cheesy to me
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they look real cheaply built like the f.o.a shocks
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hes a good dude. the shocks seem to hold up to a beating. i know a few guys that run em and have seen em in action.
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i know four people that run these shocks and thay all like them. I also know jarod adn he is a good guy and willing to help with any ?s.
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Old December 5th, 2009, 01:01 PM   #7
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I wouldnt run them if they were given to me. I'd actually choose FOA's over these.
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I wouldnt run them if they were given to me. I'd actually choose FOA's over these.
I've seen you say this stuff before but I haven't really seen reasons. Why are FOAs, and these, bad?

Seems as though without a big name it can't be good? Why is this?
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You pay for what you get.... If you want something that holds a spring and will hold the rig up then just about anything will work. If you want the shocks to perform once they get hot then that's where you notice the differences. Companies like Fox, King, Bilstein and Sway Away have spent countless hours designing pistons and valve stacks. Most of the small companies that put out parts either copy someone elses or doenst do much if any analytical work, that's how they are able to be so cheap, they dont have any significant amount of hours into developing the initial product.

A LOT of people got hooked up with FOA's for the KOH race last year. Of all the people that ran them I dont see many going back to them after making changes or building new rigs.

The quality in the end product is the easiest thing to see what your money does or doesnt get you. The "big" companies dont up charge for billet ends or viton seals to deal with the high heat, when building an FOA (for example) you need to spec that out specifically in the build, I'm not even sure if it's an option or standard with "big shocks" as there's no mention of it.

I mainly dont like big shocks as a company because someone from their clan of groupies put an big shocks banner ad in my build thread, that's the only real reason I have for not liking them.

Ballistic and Radflo seem to be good competition for the big 4 shock companies but their prices arent much different... probably because when building a shock with quality parts and the correct processes that's just what they cost.

You get what you pay for.... $0.02
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I've never heard of "big shocks" until I read this. That is rather gay with the banner though. lol

I thought a lot of where FOAs were saving money were with the way they were made? Cast bodies for instance.

I can understand if I were racing KOH, then I would buy the absolute best I could get. On the otherhand, for a daily driven rig that sees a fair bit of "normal" wheeling but nothing really crazy I can't imagine I would personally notice a difference. I don't know. I wouldn't be heating them up like in a racing environment, and don't have much plans for jumps. As long as I could get them valved correctly, and (here's the biggie) get them to last, I would likely be happy. Is this doable with an FOA, or do you honestly think they are just of poor quality they will fall apart?
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If you were looking for a lower cost alternative to the big companies then I'd start with FOA's but I wouldnt go any lower in price/quality. FOA's will work well for your average DD/trail rig that doesnt really need any more than a standard shock for spring damping.
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I wouldnt run them if they were given to me. I'd actually choose FOA's over these.
Sorry I have upset you, I remember looking at your build and complementing on your work. The banner was a sig type banner and was removed the next day....Sorry

Kings and Fox are top notch shocks, We build a product that the average person can afford and have fun in this sport on budget.
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Well then, while you're here... How about some tech on "your" product (assuming you are saying "we" because you work there or own it or make them or something?)

Do you have a picture of your piston, with and without the valve stack? What type of seals and bushings do you use? Are the top caps welded on after the ID of the body is honed or after? If neither, then how do you go about that process? What valving is available? I didnt see any mention of it on your website so it's got me wondering.
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Well then, while you're here... How about some tech on "your" product (assuming you are saying "we" because you work there or own it or make them or something?)

Do you have a picture of your piston, with and without the valve stack? What type of seals and bushings do you use? Are the top caps welded on after the ID of the body is honed or after? If neither, then how do you go about that process? What valving is available? I didnt see any mention of it on your website so it's got me wondering.



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what is the actual price per shock with springs for a 2.5x16
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what is the actual price per shock with springs for a 2.5x16
I'm not trying to "give him hell", since he's here, I'd like to see what does into making these shocks, I'm actually curious. Since it's not listed on the website I figured this would be as good of a time as any to have some more in depth information on the shocks that are in the title of this thread.
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