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Old November 16th, 2009, 09:43 AM   #1
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Default Gladwin ORV loop

Is anyone familar with the Gladwin ORV trail loop? Portions of it north of 61 have been closed for the past few years. Me and my brother tried riding it from the north end going south last weekend. Trails were marked and seemed open but then we ran into a large guardrail/barrier where it crosses the molasses river and turned around.

No signage like we saw awhile back heading north from the M-61 trail head. DNR site is not helpful nothing mentioned or indicated on the maps. This is the area that I am talking about.

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Old November 16th, 2009, 05:05 PM   #2
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I've been through the area on Mosquito Truck Trail and Centerfire but not on the ORV loop. I know we used to run a trail that crossed the Molasses many yers ago but its a no-no now to cross it openly.

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Old November 16th, 2009, 05:40 PM   #3
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Thanks we didn't even consider crossing the river it is guardrail blocked on both sides and a big mess of trees were recently pushed on the south side. The trails north of there are still ORV triangle marked but obviously have not been ridden in awhile. We have ridden the 26 mile loop south of M-61 a few times. About 5+ years ago there was a large sign saying that the entire loop north of M-61 was closed for re habitation or something similar.

I believe they have opened up at least half of the northern loop again, I am guessing just up to where we were might be open.

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Old November 19th, 2009, 03:58 AM   #4
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me and my buddies rode the north loop earlier in the year most of it was open they had some areas closed but the only spot i remeber being closed had been for awhile. that mape you have looks like a older one the map i just looked at on http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7...8330--,00.html shows the trail is a little diffrent

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Old November 19th, 2009, 07:50 AM   #5
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Thanks Brinker, I downloaded the map this week from the DNR site. It is certainly different then the 10 year old one that I have but still does not explain the closures that we came across.
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Old November 19th, 2009, 07:54 AM   #6
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Thanks Brinker, I downloaded the map this week from the DNR site. It is certainly different then the 10 year old one that I have but still does not explain the closures that we came across.
Did you try looking on VVmapping and see what their free online maps show?
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Old November 19th, 2009, 09:07 AM   #7
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Deuce fantastic thanks, I did not know that there were any free maps on the VV site. But there was and it does confirm my suspicion. None of the trails on their map go to where we were.

It's really a shame because while exploring by truck on some of the two tracks we saw some really really nice looking single track trails following creeks and marshes etc...

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Old November 25th, 2009, 10:30 AM   #8
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Ordered the VVmapping software they look more up to date
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Old November 25th, 2009, 10:37 AM   #9
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Yeah, I bought a copy too. It is the most up to date maps there are on the net.
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I know this is a old post,but I was just out there last week,the county is putting in a new bridge over the river.The county is doing it,not the DNR,and all the roads out there are plowed now.I did see a bunch of orv trails that are open,coming in from m-61.
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The "old" ORV route never did cross the Mollases where it is now blocked via guardrails. It actually entered on the same road off from M61 but turned right at the first intersection north of 61. That was decommissioned a couple years back with the help of the CCC, needless to say GLFWDA was not happy about as it was pushed through without our consideration or input, thanks Bill Chapin!

I have only been up there once since with the Quad to see what exactly they did to it and it confirmed my suspicion, a nice wide sandy road is now our ORV route, another fine example of what the routes were actually created for, a connector for the 50" trail. Some of the old markers were never removed! Trap, I'm not sure but it is not hard to take them down if you are getting paid for maint. through the grant system.

The two track that crosses the river has a few names, one is Iron Bridge road, named after the now collpased Iron Bridge north of Mosquito Alley trail. The other names it has are Wildwood Rd. Wildwood Shores Rd. and What the hell were you thinking when you drove down this, Rd. The latter was what was said opening morning of rifle season when car after car was stuck in the several water holes while trying to be the first one back into their favorite hunting spots. This being back in the 70's when we hunted there, a gentleman that lived on the corner of Mosquito Alley (aka Ridge Rd.) and Three Rivers road made a lot of money with his tractor back then.
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I know this is a old post,but I was just out there last week,the county is putting in a new bridge over the river.The county is doing it,not the DNR,and all the roads out there are plowed now.I did see a bunch of orv trails that are open,coming in from m-61.
It's about time the fixed that small bridge...it's been out for a couple of years.
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I remember siting in the meeting that the head guy of Gladwin was at. he wanted the loop closed on the north side because of a water crossing that was like a 2'-3' wide. he wanted to spend $100,000 on a concrete bunker bridge to cross it! it was made very clear at the meeting that if they moved the trail to the west I believe about 150' it would go around the spring that fed the creek there and they wouldn't need to spend the $100K. good old Bill O'Neil and his pandering.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 09:37 PM   #14
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The "old" ORV route never did cross the Mollases where it is now blocked via guardrails. It actually entered on the same road off from M61 but turned right at the first intersection north of 61. That was decommissioned a couple years back with the help of the CCC, needless to say GLFWDA was not happy about as it was pushed through without our consideration or input, thanks Bill Chapin!

I have only been up there once since with the Quad to see what exactly they did to it and it confirmed my suspicion, a nice wide sandy road is now our ORV route, another fine example of what the routes were actually created for, a connector for the 50" trail. Some of the old markers were never removed! Trap, I'm not sure but it is not hard to take them down if you are getting paid for maint. through the grant system.

The two track that crosses the river has a few names, one is Iron Bridge road, named after the now collpased Iron Bridge north of Mosquito Alley trail. The other names it has are Wildwood Rd. Wildwood Shores Rd. and What the hell were you thinking when you drove down this, Rd. The latter was what was said opening morning of rifle season when car after car was stuck in the several water holes while trying to be the first one back into their favorite hunting spots. This being back in the 70's when we hunted there, a gentleman that lived on the corner of Mosquito Alley (aka Ridge Rd.) and Three Rivers road made a lot of money with his tractor back then.
Not sure what you are talking about we didn't drive down that area by truck and it was the day before opening rifle.

We biked where there was orv markers up and to the blocked river crossing then turned around. I don't intentionally drive or bike on any closed trails. Perhaps with the VV maps now we will be able to figure it out for next year.

Not sure if the discussed bridge will improve the orv trail or is it a crossing for trucks on a trail nearby?
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The two track that crosses the river has a few names, one is Iron Bridge road, named after the now collpased Iron Bridge north of Mosquito Alley trail. The other names it has are Wildwood Rd. Wildwood Shores Rd. and
Is the bridge still there?
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Not sure what you are talking about we didn't drive down that area by truck and it was the day before opening rifle.

We biked where there was orv markers up and to the blocked river crossing then turned around. I don't intentionally drive or bike on any closed trails. Perhaps with the VV maps now we will be able to figure it out for next year.


Not sure if the discussed bridge will improve the orv trail or is it a crossing for trucks on a trail nearby?
I am just reffering to the "route" the 72" wide ORV Route not the 50" Trail that you could be talking about. Meaning we could be talking about two similar but different things.


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Is the bridge still there?
The old Iron bridge has pretty much rusted away, some side rail left is all.
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Old January 15th, 2010, 09:42 AM   #17
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I know where your talking about. It was closed a few years back when I had my toyota, then this summer it was open. When we went out there during deer season it was closed again. the bridge that is.
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Old January 16th, 2010, 09:33 PM   #18
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I know where your talking about. It was closed a few years back when I had my toyota, then this summer it was open. When we went out there during deer season it was closed again. the bridge that is.
I don't believe that where we were had any remnants of a bridge so it must have been the second crossing.
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hi i know is is old but can someone please tell me where the iron bridge was?
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