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Old November 6th, 2009, 12:14 AM   #41
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i wanted to buy this truck

sweet ride ScOoTeR
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Old November 15th, 2009, 06:29 PM   #42
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Looks like I will be picking up a 383 stroker motor this weekend.

A coworker has a vintage aluminum intake - but it's single plane, so not sure I'll go with that.
Well, today I started to tear down the engine I bought - these are the specs that were listed:

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The motor is a 377-CID stroker combination :
- 350 block STD bore and a 400 crank machined to fit the 350 journals.
- 5.565" rods and STD 350 pistons
- 4 bolt main block with fresh cylinder hone
- Hydraulic flat tappet cam, 224 Int/ 234 Exh @ 0.050" lift
- All new bearings and gaskets.
- Heads are GM 882 casting with mild port and polish job,76cc. 9.5:1 compression, with 2.02/1.60 valves
- Intake is gasket matched to the heads
- Engine is painted blue
- Intake is powder coated oxide red
I'm much more versed in rebuilding motorcycle engines, but I don't think a few things are right...

These "new bearings" sure look funny...


Must have used a different gasket to do the matching...


I got cheated on my dial gauge! Clearly, I have 2.02" intake valves, but my calipers must be off...



Something for no extra charge!


These must be for improved oiling:



Sigh. What a fucking mess. "Fresh hone" must mean knocking down the ridge until you go through a set of stones.

I bought this engine from someone that bought it from someone else that traded something for it in the beginning - so, I'm not about to go trying to get my money back. Looks like I'll have a bit more work to do.

I haven't plastiguaged the mains yet - just the four of the rods... and they are from 0.007 to 0.03. (that's NOT a typo). I hope to hell the mains are in spec and I can get away with having the crank cleaned up and the rods resized - though who knows what else is hosed with this damn thing.
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Old November 15th, 2009, 07:29 PM   #43
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Holy crap, thats no good
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Old November 15th, 2009, 07:53 PM   #44
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though who knows what else is hosed with this damn thing.
Probably everything else. Sorry 'bout the luck.
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Old November 16th, 2009, 12:00 AM   #45
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The f-ed up motor you bought will end up being better than they had claimed in the end - and you know the work is done to your standards when you did it yourself.

The only way I would buy any performance motor is if it was apart when I went to look at it.

Think about how many of that 95% of this website that you quoted before have built motors...
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Old November 16th, 2009, 07:41 AM   #46
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The f-ed up motor you bought will end up being better than they had claimed in the end - and you know the work is done to your standards when you did it yourself.

The only way I would buy any performance motor is if it was apart when I went to look at it.

Think about how many of that 95% of this website that you quoted before have built motors...
That's what I get for trusting someone with good i-trader . It's totally my fault though - and you are 100% about me not taking the time to inspect it before the purchase.
In defense of the person I purchased it from - I think he bought it (like I did) not knowing about the external balancing issue - maybe when he found out about having to have it balanced, he just didn't have the time or inclination to do it.

You're also correct that it will be done right when I do it - but this seriously changes plans this winter - because I don't have the funds allotted for a for build on an engine (because everything will be gone through completely).
Looks like the 283 will get a refresh over the winter - at least new gaskets, seals, rings and timing chain (and a valve job).
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Old November 16th, 2009, 11:03 AM   #47
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Well, well, well...

I found the original builder of the engine...
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthr...&highlight=377

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the block and heads came from a camaro block was cleaned and honed, heads were checked and ported, crank was cut to 350 journals, and machined to clear the pistons, rods are also reconditioned 400 rods cut to 350 journal, motor has not been fired since it assembly. was gonna use it for firgure 8 racing in a 76 monte carlo but dont know if ill have the money to build the rest of the car so putting the whole project on hold until the money situation gets a little better.
I would seriously reconsider EVER buying something from Brads01ws6

Since SBC's come from anywhere and go anywhere, the camaro part isn't misleading, however,
* the block is from a 1970 C10 (according to the stamping)
* the heads are these:
1970-80 333882 350,400 1.94 1.5 76
E164 = Cast on May 16th, 1974

The crank is a 400 casting...however - I'm not sure on it never being fired...




So I found the root of my engine problem. Brads01ws6.
I can't do anything about it, however, I can let people know that anything you sell may not be 100% factual.

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That's shitty.

If you want to totally change directions, I'll have a 2WD 7.3L PSD van turbo drivetrain and E450 rolling chassis on the market, soon. Or, I know of the whereabouts of a very affordable 6.0L LQ4.
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Old November 16th, 2009, 12:03 PM   #49
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I was going to go with a modern GM engine to begin with, but my wife wanted a carbed v8.



Check FML to see if my post gets added.
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Old November 16th, 2009, 12:28 PM   #50
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"Today, I had nothing better to do than make a penis out of silly putty. FML"
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Old November 16th, 2009, 12:31 PM   #51
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Shit dude $650? I would be pissed.
Dont care who built it i'd be seeking money back from dmc. Doesnt say it needs rebuilt in his add. So hes the current seller. He should have did some research into it before passing it on.
He mis-represented it.
I would never resell something based solely on the PO's word or description.

IDK, just my .02
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Old November 16th, 2009, 12:36 PM   #52
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I can't do anything about it, however, I can let people know that anything you sell may not be 100% factual.

Uh you bend over and spread your butt hole, take a few lovely pictured and PM or e-mail them off...
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Old November 16th, 2009, 12:44 PM   #53
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Uh you bend over and spread your butt hole, take a few lovely pictured and PM or e-mail them off...


To make it known I'm ready to fukc over?

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Old November 16th, 2009, 12:44 PM   #54
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"Today, I had nothing better to do than make a penis out of silly putty. FML"
hahahahaha

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Old November 17th, 2009, 07:11 PM   #55
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wow thats the work of a garage floor build. i've seen some shotty engine building before but thats just common sense shit.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 07:19 PM   #56
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Don't worry ScOoT, you will know up front when I'm fawkin you over.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 07:14 AM   #57
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wow thats the work of a garage floor build. i've seen some shotty engine building before but thats just common sense shit.
Actually, I think it is just the work of a very dishonest seller that misrepresented it to one person, then it got passed on to the next guy, and I bought it to actually use.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 07:28 AM   #58
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Shit dude $650? I would be pissed.
Dont care who built it i'd be seeking money back from dmc. Doesnt say it needs rebuilt in his add. So hes the current seller. He should have did some research into it before passing it on.
He mis-represented it.
I would never resell something based solely on the PO's word or description.

IDK, just my .02

I wouldn't pin it on DMC, I have done business with him myself, and he is a stand up guy. IMO Scooter is handling this properly. He owned up to his end, and dug down to the root of the problem.

Scooter good luck with the build. IIRC machine work on my SBC was around $600 a couple years ago from Reichert Racing. I didn't specify and they built it a little loose though, I think I would run a little tighter tolerances if I did it again.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 07:33 AM   #59
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Dood, I love the 60's body style chebys (up to 66). I've owned several of them over the years and they've all been 6 poppers with a three on da tree. Nice smooth driving old trucks.
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Old November 18th, 2009, 01:49 PM   #60
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I LIKE IT

If you loose interest in it let me know

If your interested I have a 283 (dissasembled for inspection) I have been thinking of selling needs a few things but some machine work was done already ; bored .040 but not finish honed , line bore and deck checked good, power pack heads with all new seats but seats are not finished,new guides installed but not finished, steel crank from a marine engine checked out good but needs to be turned or polished.
I was going to put larger intake valves and flat top pistons in it but never bought anything
as a side note if you check with LMC or GOLDEN STATE you can get a disc conversion and still keep all the original suspension
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