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Old November 3rd, 2009, 09:37 AM   #21
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Just because people do it all the time does not mean it is a good idea. I have not seen a carb'd ls motor make power identical to fuel injection. My friend was looking at putting a carb on the ls1 in his pick up and all the dyno charts and info he showed me the carb was making in the area of 10-15% less power.
From the dyno plots I had seen recently of a bunch of cams being tested with I believe a victor jr intake, the carb made more HP on every cam than the FI did.
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From the dyno plots I had seen recently of a bunch of cams being tested with I believe a victor jr intake, the carb made more HP on every cam than the FI did.


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I can't believe I'm going to say this, but screw all that LS crap, go grab a dime-a-dozen 350 block, toss in the crank from the 283 (especially if it's steel) with some 327 rods, flat-tops, balance to the moon with either worked over factory heads or some affordable Dart iron heads, cover your roller rockers with valve cover spacers and those nicely patina'd 283 covers, paint an aluminum intake all scroggy to match, stick the stock air cleaner over a modern 4bbl and get it awn. Small-journal 302, old school style for an old school truck.

I love those trucks lowered, but don't be afraid to hoist the front end up gasser style, throw'n sparks off the back bumper is way cooler when the front end is in the air.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 11:27 AM   #24
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Wasn't saying it couldn't be done. Just the one's I seen weren't. But you sure showed me.

Good luck with whatever you build it like Skooter. Yours will probably be done before mine because I'm slow. Maybe this will give me some motivation to finish mine.
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If the front end is all twisted, and since you plan on dropping it in front, you might just put a diffrent sub-frame up front that has the modern amenities like larger disc brakes, better front end geometry, and better steering.
plan is to grab the front end components off a 73-87 for the updated brakes and 5-bolt wheel pattern.
Drop spindles in the front, notched frame in the back.
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Sounds like a great project. I can't wait to see some progress pictures.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 11:59 AM   #27
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Put a 22r in it.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 12:07 PM   #28
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I can't believe I'm going to say this, but screw all that LS crap, go grab a dime-a-dozen 350 block, toss in the crank from the 283 (especially if it's steel) with some 327 rods, flat-tops, balance to the moon with either worked over factory heads or some affordable Dart iron heads, cover your roller rockers with valve cover spacers and those nicely patina'd 283 covers, paint an aluminum intake all scroggy to match, stick the stock air cleaner over a modern 4bbl and get it awn. Small-journal 302, old school style for an old school truck.

I love those trucks lowered, but don't be afraid to hoist the front end up gasser style, throw'n sparks off the back bumper is way cooler when the front end is in the air.
You're preaching to the choir.
If I can't go totally modern, I'm not going to dumb-down a F.I. motor to use a carb. I have access to a small-journal 327 block to stuff my 283 crank and rods into to wind up with the same effect, however, I'd like torque below 4000 rpm too - that's why I'm considering a 377. A few more cubes and similar piston speeds to wring out 6500 rpm (or more )

I will use all the old patina-ed parts I can, with the exception of buying THESE.
I will also look for an old offy or weiand aluminum manifold with the hole for the oil-filler tube to finish it off. I am also working on figuring out a good way to hide programmable spark timing.
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Stop peeing in my happy water.
Your wife basically said it reminds her of her fathers car... which probably had some crappy 4 cylinder in it.

Thus 22R.

OH SICK BURN!

All kidding aside, I'd love to have some old iron with a modern jap turbo 4 banger. Oh how it would anger people at car shows *lol*
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You're preaching to the choir.
If I can't go totally modern, I'm not going to dumb-down a F.I. motor to use a carb. I have access to a small-journal 327 block to stuff my 283 crank and rods into to wind up with the same effect, however, I'd like torque below 4000 rpm too - that's why I'm considering a 377. A few more cubes and similar piston speeds to wring out 6500 rpm (or more )

I will use all the old patina-ed parts I can, with the exception of buying THESE.
I will also look for an old offy or weiand aluminum manifold with the hole for the oil-filler tube to finish it off. I am also working on figuring out a good way to hide programmable spark timing.

I've got a vintage cross-ram dual quad intake...but it's not for sale, and I know a guy with a triple v-belt driven 4-71 blower topped with (4) 1bbls....he says he won't sell that either....

Petronics conversion in a vintage Mallory or Accel points distributor body....ooh yeah.
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I've got a vintage cross-ram dual quad intake...but it's not for sale, and I know a guy with a triple v-belt driven 4-71 blower topped with (4) 1bbls....he says he won't sell that either....

Petronics conversion in a vintage Mallory or Accel points distributor body....ooh yeah.
You're no help, Jackass!

I'll find something on the H.A.M.B., I'm sure.
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Looks like I will be picking up a 383 stroker motor this weekend.

A coworker has a vintage aluminum intake - but it's single plane, so not sure I'll go with that.
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Easyest way to do up grade is to swap out entire frame from early to mid 80's truck. Easy swap by far possibly swap frame mounts if need be other wise frames are prity close. Or I have seen people mate a 70's camaro front sub into frame and use a 12 bolt car rear end.

Ya it is hard to beat the HP from a carberated motor. But depending on what he is using it for it is eaven harder to beat the dependability of fuel injection. That and no offence but some women don't under stand the full concept of how to start a carberated motor. Due to they ae to used to fuel injected ones.
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Easyest way to do up grade is to swap out entire frame from early to mid 80's truck. Easy swap by far possibly swap frame mounts if need be other wise frames are prity close. Or I have seen people mate a 70's camaro front sub into frame and use a 12 bolt car rear end.

Ya it is hard to beat the HP from a carberated motor. But depending on what he is using it for it is eaven harder to beat the dependability of fuel injection. That and no offence but some women don't under stand the full concept of how to start a carberated motor. Due to they ae to used to fuel injected ones.
How is this bad? Then the woman will never take his truck.
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LMFAO
True but I thaught it was for her to drive. O for them to share. LOL
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Easyest way to do up grade is to swap out entire frame from early to mid 80's truck. Easy swap by far possibly swap frame mounts if need be other wise frames are prity close. Or I have seen people mate a 70's camaro front sub into frame and use a 12 bolt car rear end.

Ya it is hard to beat the HP from a carberated motor. But depending on what he is using it for it is eaven harder to beat the dependability of fuel injection. That and no offence but some women don't under stand the full concept of how to start a carberated motor. Due to they ae to used to fuel injected ones.
Frame will stay 1966.
Front suspension will be sourced from a 73-87 1/2 Chevy.
Rear end will be a 12-bolt similarly sourced and I'll make my own panhard setup for it.

And as far as my wife, she is smarter and better versed in internal combustion engines than 95% of this forum.
She already understands the drawbacks to a carburetor, and that is the reason she wants to keep one.
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good to here. cause some "people I should say short of puting the key in ignition and turning it to start if they have to do any more they are lost.
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good to here. cause some "people I should say short of puting the key in ignition and turning it to start if they have to do any more they are lost.
Those people own Toyota Camrys.
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