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Old October 9th, 2009, 08:39 PM   #21
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what, it goes "pop"? acetylene can be extremely dangerous if you dont take precautioins and use common sense when using it. My weldinginstructor told me that 15cu/ft-min (or whatever the gauge reads in) of acetylene gas can cut through 7" thick steel. That deserves respect in itself.





Learn TIG, understand the practices and then buy a MIG for your own use. an ugly weld can be strong or weak, a good lookign weld can be strong or weak, it's about the right settings and getting the weld to be uniform and consistant, wheather it's ugly or not.

Time behind the hood is the only way you're going to learn how to weld.
i thought if you don't turn it off in the right order it will explode?

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jeff didnt you take welding in highschool thought u did
go to occ and sign up for it
practice makes perfect
you can go to ace by me they have some welding stuff arc rods mig wire filler rods for tig
id help you if you can find a machine i dont have one yet
i had to switch out cause of math, total bs cause i wanted the class scine sophomore year lol but you were in it right?

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Jeff, remember Bob with the green YJ last time at the Mounds? He's the para pro welding instructor at OCC Auburn Hills. I took the intro course there. Learned Gas, tig, arc and mig.
is it only at the auburn hills one? they have an additional $330 charge at schoolcraft and wasn't able to take it this semester.

soooo the consensus that im hearing is that TIG is what i should start out with? and definitely take classes?
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Old October 9th, 2009, 09:15 PM   #22
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i thought if you don't turn it off in the right order it will explode?



i had to switch out cause of math, total bs cause i wanted the class scine sophomore year lol but you were in it right?



is it only at the auburn hills one? they have an additional $330 charge at schoolcraft and wasn't able to take it this semester.

soooo the consensus that im hearing is that TIG is what i should start out with? and definitely take classes?


Tig is the most difficult to master, I would recommend a mig class. That should cover all you need to know for a few years of practice. Then if you are still intrigued and want to continue then take a tig class.


I also recommend you go to Millerwelds.com and do as much research and learning there you can. Lots of good info.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 11:08 AM   #23
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MIG is by far the way to learn. Quick & easy.

Who said he would weld up his shit in an hour & drive it.

1 hour of helmet time you will become proficient enough for a basic weld with 3/8" mild steel. Then you start to grind & notch you stock. Fitment is the key as well as clean steel.

Within an hour you will know if it is for you. Some push some pull.

Start with coat hangers & a gas out fit like the old school guy's did

Here are some high end welding jobs to look forward to:
http://technical.thingamajob.com/job...Welder/1984651

Looks like the Union guys are the ones making $75 per hour.


Here is some nice Welding PORN good luck on starting with TIG

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=151913
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Old October 10th, 2009, 09:23 PM   #24
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MIG is by far the way to learn. Quick & easy.

Who said he would weld up his shit in an hour & drive it.

1 hour of helmet time you will become proficient enough for a basic weld with 3/8" mild steel. Then you start to grind & notch you stock. Fitment is the key as well as clean steel.

Within an hour you will know if it is for you. Some push some pull.

Start with coat hangers & a gas out fit like the old school guy's did

Here are some high end welding jobs to look forward to:
http://technical.thingamajob.com/job...Welder/1984651

Looks like the Union guys are the ones making $75 per hour.


Here is some nice Welding PORN good luck on starting with TIG

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=151913
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So your saying that if i fit up all of my own stuff out of 3/8" i can have him come over and welding it up an an hour. Hmm.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 09:53 PM   #25
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Typically in welding if it leaves a slag you drag. Now if you are using solid wire mig you can push or pull. Pulling will result in deeper penetration with more weld metal reinforcement. Pushing will result in shallower penetration and usually a flatter bead appearance. Now for with any process when welding a push or pull can be dictated by welding position. for example when welding vertical up it is common practice to use ~5-15* push angle.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 10:09 PM   #26
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yeah i took it all 4 years did everything twice
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Old October 11th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #27
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Their is a reason a good welder/fabricator makes 25-75 an hour. That is just plain bad advice.
They do? Holy shit what am I doing wrong
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Old October 11th, 2009, 05:27 PM   #28
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Yup $50/hour for me to fab for people.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 04:22 PM   #29
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Can any one recommend some good schools in MI. My experience is limited to exaust and whatever else that is a necessity to fix. I saw some but is there anymore.
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