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Old July 20th, 2006, 01:29 PM   #21
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I'm patiently waiting to be "wowed" and come back to GM. I am/was 3rd generation GM. My dad just took the buyout after 40 years in Lansing. My brother is still building cars in Lansing. I was VERY anti-Japanese vehicles until I finally gave up.

My dad worked at the proving grounds in Milford for 14 years during the 80s/90s. He used to beat the hell out of Honda Preludes because GM was trying to figure out why they worked so well.

Don't get me wrong...GM has came a LONG way in quality. They need to push the attention to detail down to the dealer/service level. We all know horror stories of bad dealers who've left their customers out to dry.

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Old July 20th, 2006, 03:07 PM   #22
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Sarcasm or a total miss understanding of what I wrote?
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Old July 20th, 2006, 03:16 PM   #23
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Would it help if I quit eating Thai food every day? I believe they use American cats.
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Old July 20th, 2006, 07:58 PM   #24
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Perception of Quality

This is a joke. We (US Manufacturers) have the capability to produce the highest quality automobiles in the World, but we throw in "Statisctical Process Controls" which seem to make it OK to have a defect every X vehicles. If you're the one who gets the X...you're pissed...and eventually you're going to buy a product that is built with more quality PLANNED into it. The attitude at GM seemed to be..."we can't demand that sort of quality, because the workers won't do it". That's crap! Insist upon a quality job and the workers who care will step up. Those who don't need to be on the unemployment line.

I WAS a die-hard GM buyer, but I've been burned too many times. My Acura is amazing, and I will likely buy another one when I'm shopping for a new car.

Having said that...I won't be trading my Jeep in for a Toyota anytime soon.

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Statistical process control was pioneered by Walter A. Shewhart and taken up by W. Edwards Deming with significant effect by the Americans during World War II to improve industrial production. Deming was also instrumental in introducing SPC methods to Japanese industry after that war.
It's what the Japanese used to achive quality.
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Like F, I am also a teacher. What he said is correct on the parenting point. I will get into a new style of discipling at some other point.
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