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Old October 21st, 2009, 09:33 AM   #1
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Question bump stops at different heights drivers side to passenger side???

So last night I'm getting ready to build bump stop mounts decide to put the shocks in just to make sure everything is going to work out at full bump. So I get to full bump height and I'm not even close to bottoming the shocks out . I double check my 23.5" compressed thats written on my bumper, yeah not so much. It's 21.05" from SAW's website, 23.5" is for the shocks I sold off . So now I have to redo my shock mounts on my coilover hoops How I missed that, I haven't a clue.

So on the passenger side I can get 5.5-6" of uptravel, on the drivers side I can only get 4-4.5" of uptravel before running into my track bar bracket. I took it off and modified it once already to get another 1/2" of travel. Tonight I'm going to cut it another 1/4" which may get me to 5"(not 1:1 ). If I can't get there, is there any reason I shouldn't run my bump stops at different heights on the drivers side and passenger side? The only thing that holds me up on the drivers sides is steering hard to the drivers side. The tie rod contacts the bracket. If the wheels are straight it clears no issues. You can see what I'm dealing with here, this is with the wheel turned until contact, wheels straight, it clears:

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1/2" of shock until bottoming out on the passenger side, shock brackets need to move a little, nothing major on that side:

Tucks up pretty well but the exhaust/front driveshaft is going to bring the suck:


I've done too much work to settle for moving the ride height up 1.5-2". I really don't see a way to move my track bar bracket at the axle side without messing with bump stop locations ect. which puts it where it's at to keep the track bar and the steering about the same length. Any info and insight is appreciated.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 09:49 AM   #2
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I'd keep everything even unless it's a make it or break it deal. spring rates, gangsta lean and goofy handling can all get exaggerated by having your bump stops at uneven heights. Think about hitting a wall where you have to bump it to get enough traction to get up the face... the front end is pointing to the sky and when the rear suspension bottoms out one side hits before the other and kicks one side of the front und up before the other. Tha's getting into some goofy situations that I'd personally rather not have to deal with driving out of when they come up.

The sway aways are typically 2" shorter than most other brands because their top cap goes on the outside of the body instead of the inside like fox. That allows for a shorter body and the same amount of travel and overall a smaller shock to package. If you redo the axle end shock mounts (typically the easiest, if not then do the easiest ones) you just adjust the collapsed lengths between them to get the new shock to package. by doing that you arent going to give up any compression travel or ride height change... 4" from where you were is still 4" from where you were... If you go through the hassles of lowering it then you are going to lower the vehicle or give yourself more shock showing at ride height to keep your desired height the same. If your were dealing with a longer shock than you designed for then I would say, yes, make the changes needed to lower it and get everything back into check but that's not the case if I'm understanding you correctly.

You're fine, change the mounts, leave your full stuff height alone and run it.
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I have my bump stops set to different heights due to driveshaft clearance. No issues.
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I have my bump stops set to different heights due to driveshaft clearance. No issues.
I had to do that on my Toyota, lower on the drivers side, to protect the axle from hitting the pitman arm. I never noticed any ill effects from it...
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Bones & Hagger,
Would the differance become more of an issue in faster situations, like jumps?
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I don't really see myself taking it off any sweet jumps , but a good question.
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I have my bump stops set to different heights due to driveshaft clearance. No issues.
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I had to do that on my Toyota, lower on the drivers side, to protect the axle from hitting the pitman arm. I never noticed any ill effects from it...
Well since both of you are web wheelers, your opinions don't count.
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Well since both of you are web wheelers, your opinions don't count.
Oh be nice now, I've read enough on this forum to know better
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Haggar, Bones, How much of a difference?
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Iirc 1.5-2"
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oh, my limiting straps also are different side to side.
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I was looking at that too. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to let the drivers side droop out all the way without binding the driveshaft. Passenger side isn't an issue. Down the road I can get some high angle stuff but I'm unemployed at the end of this month so I have to start using what's available if I can to finish.
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I can move the track bar mount about 1/4" up and 1/8th" back but If I have to adjust the links at all I'll end up hitting either the front diff cover with the trackbar or the tie rod on the trackbar mount. I'm also running a 1 3/4" DOM x 3/8" wall tie rod(only drop at Alro that day). I could drop back to a 1.5" diameter or I could turn the tie rod down in that area for clearance too. I'm just throwing stuff out there at this point.
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Iirc 1.5-2"
About right on mine, both in my toyota, and in my TJ, both due to pitman arm/steering linkage issues.

My toyota was not high speed at all, so I can't comment.

On my TJ, I originally got it with the wrong track bar which had a drop bracket, that was hitting the tie rod so I bumped that side extra. I've since swapped to a correct height track bar, I didn't notice any difference, even though I never took out the extra bump stop material. That was at silver lake, so more jumping/higher speed, although thats still only like 20-25 mph.

But I think if it was something higher than that, I'd match them, because yeah, you might be landing funny. On the short arm lifted, soft sprung TJ, it doesn't really land/jump great anyway, so I don't really notice it.
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I will be matching mine, as I hope to see some silly hi-speed, all tires in the air at once jumps.
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