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Old October 15th, 2009, 08:30 PM   #61
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I have an outdoor boiler and run straight water in it...no anti freeze what so ever, I dont really see the point of having anti freeze in it anyways...I have about $12,500 wrapped up into mine if you count the propane tank i was forced to buy because I dont burn enough to have a free one
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I have an outdoor boiler and run straight water in it...no anti freeze what so ever, I dont really see the point of having anti freeze in it anyways...I have about $12,500 wrapped up into mine if you count the propane tank i was forced to buy because I dont burn enough to have a free one
The anti freeze is suppose to help keep the water from boiling away or freezing when the boiler is not in use. Do you have to add water to your boiler every now and than? Also price wise, ours may not have every option on it that yours may have but $1600 vs. $12,500 is a huge difference and we are really not cutting corners. We studied many different models of these boiler units and put together a plan. Infact the firebox and walls are made of heavier gauge steel than most of the units available off the shelf. They are very heavy when they are done which is somewhat of a burden but nothing most skytracks, forklifts or other pieces of equipment wouldn't handle. The one we are building right now has some changes from the last one we built but so far they are working great!!
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Old October 15th, 2009, 08:31 PM   #63
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www.woodheat.org also rocketh.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #64
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Great info!! I'm thinking about adding the hot water option to my wood boiler build next year.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 08:44 PM   #65
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The anti freeze is suppose to help keep the water from boiling away or freezing when the boiler is not in use. Do you have to add water to your boiler every now and than? Also price wise, ours may not have every option on it that yours may have but $1600 vs. $12,500 is a huge difference and we are really not cutting corners. We studied many different models of these boiler units and put together a plan. Infact the firebox and walls are made of heavier gauge steel than most of the units available off the shelf. They are very heavy when they are done which is somewhat of a burden but nothing most skytracks, forklifts or other pieces of equipment wouldn't handle. The one we are building right now has some changes from the last one we built but so far they are working great!!

I dont think you could ever get that amount of water to boil away. I just put it in last year and I had to add water one time and that was when I added the pole barn to the heating circut. I like where you are going with yours, but to me my money was well spent as i didnt have to do a thing except pay for it, but dont get me wrong I'm all about saving a buck here and there, but the boiler was something I didnt want to mess with



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Hey toughguy, how deep are your lines buried? I think a glycol mix is just added insurance (against freezing), corrosion protection and lets you get the fluid a little hotter.

Just guessing.

the lines are around 14" deep maybe alittle deeper. I wanted to put them below the frost line but the manufacture said not to? I know I'm getting some heatloss as every now and then it will melt the snow where they are buried. It would be nealry impossible for the water to freeze having the pump on even if the water dropped below freezing. The down side of a glycol mix is that it would take more heat to get it to the temp you wanted. Hotter fluid wouldn't really help anyways as mine is programable to run between 155-195 degrees, so you really cant get it over 195 if you wanted too. As soon as the water hits the set temp the damper closes and chokes down the fire. After it drops 10 degrees below the set temp it opens it back up. Next time we do a bike ride you can come over and check it out if you want...I only live a few miles away from the trails
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The anti freeze is suppose to help keep the water from boiling away or freezing when the boiler is not in use. Do you have to add water to your boiler every now and than? Also price wise, ours may not have every option on it that yours may have but $1600 vs. $12,500 is a huge difference and we are really not cutting corners. We studied many different models of these boiler units and put together a plan. Infact the firebox and walls are made of heavier gauge steel than most of the units available off the shelf. They are very heavy when they are done which is somewhat of a burden but nothing most skytracks, forklifts or other pieces of equipment wouldn't handle. The one we are building right now has some changes from the last one we built but so far they are working great!!
I have to add water about once every 3 weeks or so. It does boil/steam off, because it's an open system with a vent on the top of the unit. No biggie, you do it right from inside your house, takes about 5 minutes. The price was up there I agree, but I feel like it was worth it for what I got. We used the farmers Skytrack to set mine. Dry weight 2300lbs. Holds 300 gallons, and I heat 2300sq/ft. We also have our Domestic Hot Water Supply piped through it, and I have yet to run out of hot water when it's fired up. That part is fantastic.
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I'm looking forward to adding the hot water option to mine. One step at a time.
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I'm looking forward to adding the hot water option to mine. One step at a time.
hot water is awsome...I unplug my hot water heater in the winter and you can never run out of hot water, or least I havent yet. You do have to put a tempering valve on your hot water supply as that shit gets really hot when the wood stove is heating it
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hot water is awsome...I unplug my hot water heater in the winter and you can never run out of hot water, or least I havent yet. You do have to put a tempering valve on your hot water supply as that shit gets really hot when the wood stove is heating it
I figured as much. My neighbor is one hell of a plumber. I was going to work with him a bit to get the hot water part squared away.
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it super simple to hook up...its just a water to water heat exchanger that taps in between your t&p valve and your drain on your hot water tank and the then add the tempering valve to the hot water supply to your house and thats it
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it super simple to hook up...its just a water to water heat exchanger that taps in between your t&p valve and your drain on your hot water tank and the then add the tempering valve to the hot water supply to your house and thats it
Sounds simple enough. Thank you for the info.
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Sounds simple enough. Thank you for the info.

http://www.centralboiler.com/Tech/C110.pdf

Here's a sample of a typical install for Domestic Hot Water.
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Well been heating my home since Tuesday, not cold yet but only burned a wheel borrow of wood and the stove has not went out once. I am loving it but irresponsibility and heating with wood do not mix, you have to be on top of everything. I am taking it slow and learning as I go. Probably not a good source of heat for people only looking to save money, although it is very nice being able to keep the house very warm and even open the door to the garage and heat that too.

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My house doesn't even have a furnace or a woodstove.

It has 2 window AC units that I guess one of them can be used as a heater? Dunno.. prolly won't have to find out.
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I can't find the furnace filter on my boiler.
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the lines are around 14" deep maybe alittle deeper. I wanted to put them below the frost line but the manufacture said not to? I know I'm getting some heatloss as every now and then it will melt the snow where they are buried. It would be nealry impossible for the water to freeze having the pump on even if the water dropped below freezing. The down side of a glycol mix is that it would take more heat to get it to the temp you wanted. Hotter fluid wouldn't really help anyways as mine is programable to run between 155-195 degrees, so you really cant get it over 195 if you wanted too. As soon as the water hits the set temp the damper closes and chokes down the fire. After it drops 10 degrees below the set temp it opens it back up. Next time we do a bike ride you can come over and check it out if you want...I only live a few miles away from the trails
Oh hell no!

I don't need another thing I think I want to do to the house!
I was just wondering if there was any protection in case the boiler flamed out or something similar while you're on vacation and the thing had the chance to freeze.
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I'll help you, but it involves you bending over in front of me.
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