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Old July 31st, 2009, 10:37 AM   #21
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second row seating needs work, it seems a bit unsafe.

Why a steel dash and alum floors? Seems like it'll be all one or the other.
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Old July 31st, 2009, 11:23 AM   #22
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second row seating needs work, it seems a bit unsafe.

Why a steel dash and alum floors? Seems like it'll be all one or the other.

So the dash could be easily welded in I'm assuming...

And aluminum makes the floors lighter. Is that weird?
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Old July 31st, 2009, 11:53 AM   #23
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Very cool build, I look forward to see the progress.
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Old July 31st, 2009, 01:09 PM   #24
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So the dash could be easily welded in I'm assuming...

And aluminum makes the floors lighter. Is that weird?
I only ask because it seems if weight is thought, then it'd be use as much alum as possible, or if not, then use sheetmetal. Throwing a couple of tabs on the dash cross bar to make a bolt-on alum dash would be an easy solution, so just trying to see the thought process behind it.
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Old July 31st, 2009, 03:00 PM   #25
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and being able to remove that said dash if it was alluminium and bolted in would be easier and lighter.

should be a fun build for you guys. what tires/wheels is he going to run?
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Old July 31st, 2009, 06:23 PM   #26
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We wanted something a little different for the dash, that we would not be able to pull off with aluminum. There is no reason on this Ftoy to have to remove the dash, as there will be hardly anything under the dash. We need this to be somewhat water tight to protect some of the stuff we will be installing.

He is going to run my Allied Beadlocks and Krawlers.
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Old July 31st, 2009, 08:00 PM   #27
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Looks like all the "added bars" were tiny square tube from Home Depot...bootylicious....I'm you guys will find a way to pretty it up.
Not really. 1" square for the side bracing and floor structure is normal and what Hendrix recommends. It puts the flat of the square about 3/8" countersunk from the main 1.75" side tubes, lets the side panels be flsuh or slightly recessed.

I regret not building the F-toy clone that I had bent up.
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Well we finally get back to work on this thing. Today we desgined, cut and bent the new front and rear crossmembers:





3/16" steel. We used 1" bottom die opening dies to bend it, took every bit of the 60 tons of pressure our press had :smokin:

I cut out the rear crossmember and installed the new one:


Close up of the font:


I started playing with shackles and stuff, but here is how I leaving it for the night:


Also cut out the front hanger/crossmember in anticipation of the new stuff going in soon!
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Old September 8th, 2009, 12:50 PM   #29
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Lookin good!!!
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Back to work on this thing! Plan to try to go wheeling somewhere south in November, so I want to get this done to take it.

Here is the front crossmember/spring hanger/winch plate




Rear Shackles and corner panel thingies






more to come!
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Old October 1st, 2009, 02:00 PM   #31
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Those pieces look good. Very nice how it all came together.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 02:58 PM   #32
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Great work!
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rear shackles are sexy!!!
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Old October 1st, 2009, 05:24 PM   #34
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Old October 1st, 2009, 05:51 PM   #35
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yeah this thing is lookin sexy already
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 12:26 AM   #36
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those shackles are SICK ! I dont think i've ever seen them done like that
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:27 AM   #37
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he said sick

nice work fellas. keep postin those pix!
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nice work, looking good -


those signature crossmembers look like a product
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 03:47 AM   #39
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....3/16" steel. We used 1" bottom die opening dies to bend it, took every bit of the 60 tons of pressure our press had :smokin:.....
Hmm...the shops at my work form 7ga. all the time, bends like butter, I'll double check the tonnage they are running, but you may have a hydraulic problem. I just did a job with some formed 3/4" Plate, with a bend line 96" long...now that's some tonnage!

Either way, damn nice work, what are those shackles going to look like at ride height and full stuff? Seems like the spring may contact the crossmember at full stuff.
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Hmm...the shops at my work form 7ga. all the time, bends like butter, I'll double check the tonnage they are running, but you may have a hydraulic problem. I just did a job with some formed 3/4" Plate, with a bend line 96" long...now that's some tonnage!
1" V bottom die opening is WAY too small. It was not "air bending" as much as "die forming". We didn't have enough 2" V bottom die opening length to bend these, which would have made it easy. On the 1" bottom die, it requires 19.1 Tons per foot, where as the 2" bottom changes that to 9.5 Tons per foot. Big difference! The crossmembers were like 43" long, so just beyond the 60 Tons of pressure the press has. Trust me, this press is no slouch!
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