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Old August 13th, 2009, 05:34 PM   #1
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Silver Lake State Park...Noobie Question.

First post. Be nice.

Last weekend friends of ours invited our family out to Silver Lake State Park. One friend had a modified Jeep and another had a two-seat dune buggy. We all had a great time. The only inconvenience was having to take trips back and forth from the pit area to get picnic supplies and such.

That weekend we just happened to purchase an '06 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4x4. We've been invited back again with the same group for Labor Day weekend. It would be nice to get the family and the gear out to the beach for some tailgating...in one trip.

The problem and the question. The dealership put on a brand new set of all season radials. Great for the street. I am not sure if the sand and the street tires are going to be compatible enough to get us out to the beach. I've seen all sorts of vehicles out on the sand, but I am not going to be thrashing the dunes in the new 4Runner without some new tires/wheels and a lot more experience.

Is there a "safe and easy" route out to the beach or should I just wait until I get some new tires/wheels?
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Old August 13th, 2009, 05:37 PM   #2
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just air down and it will be fine.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 05:57 PM   #3
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I run BFG all terrains in the sand and they work great. Just air down and you will do just fine. road tires are really good in the sand because they float and dont dig like a mud terrain would.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 05:58 PM   #4
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those tires should do pretty well in the sand actually, big aggressive mud terrains dig in way too much. Just air them down to around 12psi and take it easy, and you shouldn't have a problem.

As far as an easy route to the beach, just keep going straight (West) after you leave the woods on the entrance. After you get past Test hill (the big hill on the left), start to head a little bit to the left (south). Keep heading in that direction and after a small hill, you will see the big flat area between the two bigger dunes that gets used for drag racing a lot, just watch where you are going because you don't want to cruise out in front of people who are in mid-race. Follow that gully/flat area straight out to the beach and you are all set.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 06:02 PM   #5
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those tires should do pretty well in the sand actually, big aggressive mud terrains dig in way too much. Just air them down to around 12psi and take it easy, and you shouldn't have a problem.

As far as an easy route to the beach, just keep going straight (West) after you leave the woods on the entrance. After you get past Test hill (the big hill on the left), start to head a little bit to the left (south). Keep heading in that direction and after a small hill, you will see the big flat area between the two bigger dunes that gets used for drag racing a lot, just watch where you are going because you don't want to cruise out in front of people who are in mid-race. Follow that gully/flat area straight out to the beach and you are all set.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 09:38 PM   #6
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those tires should do pretty well in the sand actually, big aggressive mud terrains dig in way too much. Just air them down to around 12psi and take it easy, and you shouldn't have a problem.

As far as an easy route to the beach, just keep going straight (West) after you leave the woods on the entrance. After you get past Test hill (the big hill on the left), start to head a little bit to the left (south). Keep heading in that direction and after a small hill, you will see the big flat area between the two bigger dunes that gets used for drag racing a lot, just watch where you are going because you don't want to cruise out in front of people who are in mid-race. Follow that gully/flat area straight out to the beach and you are all set.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 09:52 PM   #7
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follow beach south, go over small hill, continue though wash board section, stay close to fence by large water area, follow fence on right to the exit.
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Old August 14th, 2009, 10:09 AM   #8
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You are overthinking it and worrying too much, air down to 10-12 psi and go anywhere you want. If I had a nickel for every two wheel drive Chevy Cavileer (sp) and countless mini vans I have watched tool around out there I have somewhere around a $1. give or take.

Take comfort in the fact you have already been there so you have an idea of what to expect. Your biggest concern should be having a tow point front and rear just in case.
Have fun and be safe!
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Old August 14th, 2009, 10:18 AM   #9
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Thanks everyone. JeepinRRT..."RRT" as in Registered Respiratory Therapist? I am a RRT at Spectrum Health - DeVos Children's Hospital. Neonatal Clinical Specialist.
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Old August 14th, 2009, 10:21 AM   #10
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Pics of the new ride? I almost got one of these...
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Old August 17th, 2009, 12:00 PM   #11
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Pics of the new ride? I almost got one of these...

V6 5-Speed Automatic. Dial on dash 2H-4H-4L. Push button "E-Locker". Torsen Differential. Decent Assist System (trailering down steep grades). 17 x 7.5" Wheels. P265/65/R17 Tires (31in).

20mpg around town/24mpg on highway. Super quiet inside. Really smooth ride. Plenty of rear leg room for long legged teenagers. So far, very impressed. First time Toyota owner...made in Oregon.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 12:09 PM   #12
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get one of these:
and one of these:

add sand.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 01:07 PM   #13
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Nice! Have fun with it.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 02:49 PM   #14
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get one of these:
and one of these:

add sand.
How long of a tow strap? 20' or 30' ? 20,000# ?
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:00 PM   #15
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How long of a tow strap? 20' or 30' ? 20,000# ?
either or. 3" wide works good for general smart/safe recovery.


Please do not buy one of those cute tow straps at meijer with the pre-fabricated death hooks already installed
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:21 PM   #16
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the biggest thing is, if you start to get stuck, dont dig until your buried, just back down and get a better run. air down to 10 lbs, and have fun. ive seen frickin old subarus, and 2 wheel drive station wagons out there.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:43 PM   #17
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A friend of mine took a similar vehicle out onto the dunes and struggled. We suggested running 10psi and 4WD Low - he didn't have any problems after that. He started out in 2nd gear instead of 1st though.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 07:27 AM   #18
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A friend of mine took a similar vehicle out onto the dunes and struggled. We suggested running 10psi and 4WD Low - he didn't have any problems after that. He started out in 2nd gear instead of 1st though.
Unless your slow racing against whiterino and his crew, there is no reason for 4lo at the dunes. 10psi and you can go most places in 2wd.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #19
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yeah, I have never had to drop mine into 4-low on the dunes. I run around in an 8000+ lb truck and can make it most anywhere in 2wd, only time I throw it in 4-high is when I'm racing or climbing the big hills.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 01:48 PM   #20
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SLSP Update

Well, Labor Day weekend was great. We were there Saturday. There was a HUGE turnout at the park and it looked like everyone had a lot of fun. I think I saw only one breakdown when someone found some deep water.

I dropped the air pressure down to 16 on the fronts and 15 on the rears. I figured if I had any issues then I could air down some more. The 4Runner made it look easy. I just stuck it in 4H and left it in Drive. It drove like it was on pavement most of the time...well, bouncy pavement. Even on the steeper hills and loose stuff, it never felt like it was bogging down or digging in. That said, I chickened out and made no attempt at Test Hill...maybe next time.

Thank you everyone for all the great tips.
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