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Old August 6th, 2009, 08:18 AM   #1
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Hey guys and gals. I'm on the market for my first diesel and I've seen quite a few 6.0 powerstrokes going for a decent price. I've heard they have problems but I'm hoping some of you can shed some light on what those problems are and what to look out for? The truck will be a daily driver and tow occasionally... I probably could get by with a gasser but I like the better mileage and durability with diesels not to mention I've always loved driving em when I used to drive straight trucks for work. I appreciate any factual advice or pointing me to some good diesel forums.
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my dads truck in my avatar pic is a 6.0 and it seems like a good motor but my nabor has the same one and hes had to put a new head on it thats thoes 6.0s problems from what i hear but if u could i would find a 7.3
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my dads truck in my avatar pic is a 6.0 and it seems like a good motor but my nabor has the same one and hes had to put a new head on it thats thoes 6.0s problems from what i hear but if u could i would find a 7.3
Wow. Nabor, thoes, run on sentence?
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STAY AWAY FROM THE 6.0! Turn and run.
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Wow. Nabor, thoes, run on sentence?
go be a language arts teacher god damn. were talkin about trucks not school
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Try to get a copy of the warranty history - injectors were a big problem on those motors. Navistar spec'ed injectors that were what the 6.0L needed for what Ford wanted to do with them and they ended up being too big to fit in the head. Ford said "screw you" to nav and asked another supplier if they could do it. The supplier said yes, Ford went with them, and guess what?

Injector failures.
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dont get a 6.0. my old work truck had a 6.0 and all that thing did was leave me stranded. before it hit 100,000 miles it left me on the side of the road 8 times. 2 of those times were on the trip from arizona to colorado which made me lose a week off my fishing trip.
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Injectors, head studs, heads, egr cooler (twice), high pressure oil pump, glow plugs, fuel module, blah, blah, blah.... Figure out your payment, insurance, fuel cost, and then add in your $100 warranty deductible that you will need to pay every time it is in for warranty work. Gets pretty costly!


Want to buy a 2005 F350 CCLB with the 6.0?
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go be a language arts teacher god damn. were talkin about trucks not school
I believe a language arts teacher would teach you a foreign language. English is what I am talking about.
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Last time I heard there were over 80 technical service bullitens from Ford on that motor. Yikes.
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i know english idiot. and a language arts class is english not forighen language, you would take a foreighn language class for that.. are you done now?
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buy the 6.0l, do EGR delete and put headstuds on it and it will be damn near reliable as a 7.3L with more power.
The number of TSBs honestly doesn't mean shit. Ford always promotes TSBs, the same way they tend to promotebeing in the media. They don't see it is as a negative. Some of the TSBs I have been involved in are rediculous.
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buy the 6.0l, do EGR delete and put headstuds on it and it will be damn near reliable as a 7.3L with more power.
The number of TSBs honestly doesn't mean shit. Ford always promotes TSBs, the same way they tend to promotebeing in the media. They don't see it is as a negative. Some of the TSBs I have been involved in are rediculous.
I wouldn't disagree with that. I have been told quite a few times that I should do the EGR delete. It does seem like quite a few problems I have had originated with the EGR. I have had to have it replaced twice now, the first time it took out the head gaskets and one of the heads. They said they put the good head studs in when the did them. This time when the EGR cooler went, the heads were fine.
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buy the 6.0l, do EGR delete and put headstuds on it and it will be damn near reliable as a 7.3L with more power.
The number of TSBs honestly doesn't mean shit. Ford always promotes TSBs, the same way they tend to promotebeing in the media. They don't see it is as a negative. Some of the TSBs I have been involved in are rediculous.
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I wouldn't disagree with that. I have been told quite a few times that I should do the EGR delete. It does seem like quite a few problems I have had originated with the EGR. I have had to have it replaced twice now, the first time it took out the head gaskets and one of the heads. They said they put the good head studs in when the did them. This time when the EGR cooler went, the heads were fine.
yep, installing headstuds and doing an EGR delete will save a "good 6.0" You can always run an Oasis report on the 6.0 to see what its history is. I love my 02 Super Duty with the 7.3. There is more power potential out of the 6.0 once you have taken care of the headstuds and EGR shit. If you dont do these 2 things, when you blow a head gasket from streched head bolts you have to remove the cab off the truck to repair things, there is little to no room in the engine bay.
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yep, installing headstuds and doing an EGR delete will save a "good 6.0" You can always run an Oasis report on the 6.0 to see what its history is. I love my 02 Super Duty with the 7.3. There is more power potential out of the 6.0 once you have taken care of the headstuds and EGR shit. If you dont do these 2 things, when you blow a head gasket from streched head bolts you have to remove the cab off the truck to repair things, there is little to no room in the engine bay.
Seems like they have to remove the cab to do damn near anything under the hood. The cab has been off mine 7 times!
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Seems like they have to remove the cab to do damn near anything under the hood. The cab has been off mine 7 times!


7.3 FTW!!! If there is 1 thing I dont like about my 7.3 is the cost of upgrade parts. Im gonna step up to the next level when I can afford it and man it aint cheap. Swamps 200/30% injectors, GTP38R turbo, Adrenaline Hpop, regulated fuel system, installing forged rods, headstuds, 910 comp valves, cosmetic head gaskets, billet air intakes, meth/water injection, BTS trans...looking around 10k but id have 425+hp and near 1000tq. at the rear wheels all day long towing 2 jeeps on a 30+ft. gooseneck with the egt's never reaching above 1000.

Its always good to dream. Its probably easier & cheaper to install a built 12v Cummins with an Allison trans then to supe up a powerstroke, ah well what are you gonna do lol.
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Skooter brings a lot of good points to the table. I have seen a number of injector issues at or above 100K. Head studs would be a significant investment $$$$$$$$. I would go 7.3.
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Buy the 6.0, find a low mileage truck still under the powertrain warranty. I've worked on many 6.0l diesels and they definately have their problems. A few tips:

DO NOT install a chip or tuner, this will definately lead to head gasket failure among other problems.

The EGR cooler delete is one idea, but the root cause that I have found is the oil cooler plugs up causing an overtemp condition resulting in EGR cooler failure. So when you buy the truck, have the oil cooler replaced.

As for head gaskets, 90% of the time the gasketrs aren't bad and most shops(including dealers) sell them to save there own ass. Most of the time it is just a faulty EGR cooler. Also, the gaskets aren't the failure, the head bolts actually stretch causing the head to lift.

Leave the truck as stock as possible, I've owned my fare share of Ford diesels and in stock form they are great trucks designed for a purpose. As soon as you begin to modify them you will have nothing but problems. I am talking from experience!

I know, I know... Stock is boring, right? Trust me, I loved having the lifted truck that smoked like a chimney out of th 5" exhaust when throttled up, but if you want something dependable... LEAVE IT ALONE.
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We have a few at work and the 6.0 sucks allways in the shop for injectors, engine oil cooler never had any problems when we had 7.3's and these trucks run 24/7
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I agree that the 7.3l engines were awesome and its a shame that Ford was unable to continue production of them. As great as the 7.3 is, it also had its problems. I've replaced a lot of injectors, Injection control modules, cam sensors, turbochargers, high pressure oil pumps, and lets not get started on the oil leaks that I've fixed... that list could go on forever. I think the reason people hate the 6.0 is because it was unfamiliar technology that had to be installed to meet emmissions standards(this is what killed the 7.3l). In my opinion the 6.0 is a far better performing engine than the 7.3, it just had a lot of bugs to be worked out of it. I guess thats what happens when new technology is rushed into production.
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