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Old August 4th, 2009, 02:45 PM   #1
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Old August 4th, 2009, 02:48 PM   #2
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IB4 Pete C says personal computers belongs to the government
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Holy SH!T!!!

VERY Scary.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 02:54 PM   #4
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wow that's scary!
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Old August 4th, 2009, 02:59 PM   #6
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Cliffsnotes for those that can't view youtube @ worky?
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who's got the fawking foil hat now liberal faggots!!!!!

CLIFFS: while logged on to cars.gov you agree to forfeit all control of your computer and the government owns all your files, etc. and can submit your information to any foreign or domestic nation.
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...makes you wonder how many of those boxes you've already clicked.
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who's got the fawking foil hat now liberal faggots!!!!!

CLIFFS: while logged on to cars.gov you agree to forfeit all control of your computer and the government owns all your files, etc. and can submit your information to any foreign or domestic nation.
Thats tin foil hats and we should be proud to wear em!!!!!

Log onto the cash for clunkers web site and be sure to have many pc virus on your system to send em there way, see how they would like that.

But yes very scary, can anybody say domestic government terrorism on its own people

Thanks to all the liberals or moderates that they like to be called for voting for the likes of the democratic government. Where are your brains now? do you still say obama is a good guy and not a liar or a man with a completely different agenda. Can anybody say far left, extreme far left even russia is scared
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What about the patriot act though? I mean I have nothing to hide, and they can look at whatever on my computer, but how is this any different?

Dont get confused, I'm not agreeing with this.
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Wow, Glenn Beck said so?


From what little I have heard, this involves the part of the website that dealers go to when registering themselves and cars for the program. It is not accessible by the public.

Can't seem to get to the site right now, but I have been on it before. It is green in the first place, at least the consumer portion.
I have navigated all over the site and not once have I seen an acceptance of terms agreement.

But go ahead an believe whatever Beck tells you, I will wait until there is more proof. Heck, for such a big story, you would think he might have been able to manage a screen shot of what he saw with the full url so we can all see where he was at.

But no, he said, you believe. Without the benefit of anything else to back it up.


And no CC, I still believe in individual privacy, including our own personal computers.


edit: Ahhh, more comes to light. Supposedly (unconfirmed by me as of yet) what Beck showed was from the website esc.gov
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Only accesible by dealers already registered.

OK, I can see the dealer pages in blue that Beck showed. I have not found an agreement yet as I can not log in as a dealer. It talks about registration letters sent to dealers identified by the OEM. As of right now I am not on the exc.gov page, but upon registration, maybe you are sent there. I ave no way to verify this.

I even signed up for updates. Just asked for e-mail. No agreement page.

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Dman "insert racial slur here" muslim president needs to get the hell outta this country and DIE. Hopefully they found this on my computer.
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Wow, Glenn Beck said so?


From what little I have heard, this involves the part of the website that dealers go to when registering themselves and cars for the program. It is not accessible by the public.

Can't seem to get to the site right now, but I have been on it before. It is green in the first place, at least the consumer portion.
I have navigated all over the site and not once have I seen an acceptance of terms agreement.

But go ahead an believe whatever Beck tells you, I will wait until there is more proof. Heck, for such a big story, you would think he might have been able to manage a screen shot of what he saw with the full url so we can all see where he was at.

But no, he said, you believe. Without the benefit of anything else to back it up.


And no CC, I still believe in individual privacy, including our own personal computers.


edit: Ahhh, more comes to light. Supposedly (unconfirmed by me as of yet) what Beck showed was from the website esc.gov
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Only accesible by dealers already registered.
He pulled it right off the website and read it verbatim. It doesn't matter who said it.
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they are fucking painful to read.... I love how the new argument for democratic dysfunction is "well Bush did this, or Bush did that." Get with the now and look who has control as we speak.
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What about the patriot act though? I mean I have nothing to hide, and they can look at whatever on my computer, but how is this any different?

Dont get confused, I'm not agreeing with this.

That happened under the W administration. We are not allowed to bring him up anymore.
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He pulled it right off the website and read it verbatim. It doesn't matter who said it.

I have edited some more.

Go to the website yourself and look.

You will not be able to find the agreement because it is not meant for the consumer. It is meant for the dealers involved in the program.

It is not at all what Glenn Beck is making it out to be. It is not an assault on your private computers.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 04:32 PM   #20
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Wow, Glenn Beck said so?


From what little I have heard, this involves the part of the website that dealers go to when registering themselves and cars for the program. It is not accessible by the public.

Can't seem to get to the site right now, but I have been on it before. It is green in the first place, at least the consumer portion.
I have navigated all over the site and not once have I seen an acceptance of terms agreement.

But go ahead an believe whatever Beck tells you, I will wait until there is more proof. Heck, for such a big story, you would think he might have been able to manage a screen shot of what he saw with the full url so we can all see where he was at.

But no, he said, you believe. Without the benefit of anything else to back it up.


And no CC, I still believe in individual privacy, including our own personal computers.


edit: Ahhh, more comes to light. Supposedly (unconfirmed by me as of yet) what Beck showed was from the website esc.gov
Enetprise Services Center
Only accesible by dealers already registered.
You are attacking the messenger and not the message. The web site did in fact have this disclaimer, the white house has since had it removed.

Questions:

Does it matter if it was for individuals or dealers?

Are dealers not citizens of this country entitled to the same privacy under the constitution as the other people of this country?

Aren't the dealers computers full of information that is linked to individuals who did business with the dealer?

Don't those people have a reasonable expectation to have their information kept confidential?

Bottom line:

There is no reasonable defense for having this disclaimer on the site, even if it was a dealer only site.
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